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- From: kimball@stsci.edu (Timothy Kimball)
- Subject: Re: Space: continuous or discrete?
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:29:33 GMT
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- Haven't read the book, but I'll take a stab...
-
- michael lawley (lawley@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au) wrote:
- :
- : Hi,
- : I've recently been read Paul Davies' and John Gribbin's ``The Matter
- : Myth''. In it there is a brief discussion of chaos theory and its
- : relevance to physics. They argue that, since the world is a physical
- : system and not the theoretical model the physicists use to describe it, the
- : actual values of any quantity (say, the distance between two electrons)
- : must be a rational value rather than an irrational one that may be predicted
- : by the model...
-
- What if we define a new unit of charge, say the lawley,
- where the charge on an electron is defined as pi lawleys?
- Now we have a physical quantity, perfectly real, but irrational.
- The value you get for a physical quantity depends on the system of
- units you use. Maybe the authors meant that you can never
- take a measurement that will be irrational, because no measurement
- device will be that precise. So in our new units, you could define
- pi lawleys, and an electron would always have a charge of pi lawleys,
- but you'd never be able to measure that quantity with absolute precision.
-
- Besides: Say you have three electrons, placed at the vertices of a triangle
- so that a & b are 1 unit apart, a & c are one unit apart, and ab & ac are
- at right angles. What's the distance between b & c if it isn't sqrt(2),
- which is irrational?
-
- : ...Now this seems to imply that space is discrete rather than
- : continuous and that would seem to be rather a large claim...
-
- That doesn't follow. It would require a rational smaller than all others.
- But half of such an object would be rational, too.
- The rationals aren't discrete. They're _countable_, but that doesn't
- mean discrete.
-
- --
-
- /* tdk -- Opinions are mine, not my employer's. */
-