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- From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,rec.arts.startrek.tech
- Subject: Re: New Physics, Healing, Paranormal
- Message-ID: <C1HC49.I6B@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 21:09:44 GMT
- References: <C1GEpL.4H7@well.sf.ca.us>
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- In article <C1GEpL.4H7@well.sf.ca.us>, sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes in part:
- |> The gossip
- |> is that Martin Gardner and the arch-debunker, "The Amazing Randi" take
- |> psychic phenomena very seriously. That is why they came down so hard on Uri
- |> Geller because they believe him to be an imposter - a stage magician in
- |> psychic clothes. It is certainly true that Randi can do everything that
- |> Geller can do. It is also true that Geller fails rigorous tests set up by
- |> other stage magicians.
-
- You really shouldn't repeat unsubstantiated gossip about individuals.
- However, these comments are pretty slippery. Yes, MG and JR "take
- psychic phenoman very seriously"--why else would they spend so much
- time and effort debunking such claims. And yes they came down hard
- on UG because they believe him to be an imposter. And you state the
- essence of the claims against UG. What exactly are you trying to
- say?
-
- And by the way, claims that the military/CIA have successfully used
- and believe in remote viewing are most likely lies or mistakes. Next
- thing you'll be telling me is that something is true because Richard
- Nixon said so in a press conference. Puh-leeeze.
-
- |> On the other hand, I saw topologically intricate
- |> twisted metal allegedly bent by psychics in Brazil that is very puzzling.
-
- I can't realy help you being puzzled. Many things puzzle me, but
- most aren't remotely psychic.
-
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- Robert E. McGrath
- Urbana Illinois
- mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
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