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- From: baez@guitar.ucr.edu (john baez)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.skeptic
- Subject: Re: below absolute zero?
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 05:08:57 GMT
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- In article <C1EEo5.8Jr@well.sf.ca.us> sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
- >Thought problem for Star Fleet Academy Cadets from Admiral Sarfatti:
- >How does a reversible Carnot heat engine behave if the hot reservoir is
- >at a negative quantum temperature while the cold reservoir is at a positive
- >classical temperature? What kind of Star Fleet devices can you make with
- >this idea? Hint: use the second law of thermodynamics.
-
- I won't answer the above question, but I will give you space cadets out
- there a hint. When you put a body with negative temperature in contact
- with one of positive temperature, the temperature of the "cold" one *rises*
- while the temperature of the "hot" one *falls*. This is easy to see (for
- physicists) if you recall that 1/kT is beta, which is dS/dE. So (forgetting
- Boltzmann's constant k), dS/dE = T. Thus a system with negative temperature
- gets more entropy if you *decrease* its energy, while a system with positive
- temperature gets more entropy if you *increase* its energy. Systems like
- to increase their entropy, so energy will like to flow from the negative
- T system to the positive T system.
-
- This is another reason why it sort of makes sense to think of negative
- temperatures as being temperatures that are greater than infinity.
-
- I suppose readers who don't already trust me will think I'm nuts, but
- this is really all pretty well known. I think Scientific American had
- a nice article on systems with negative temperature a while back.
-