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- From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: photon 'detectors' - how reliable?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.223610.12062@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 22:36:10 GMT
- References: <1jms14$ibn@agate.berkeley.edu> <1993Jan23.224608.16959@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> <1k1nn0$b8d@agate.berkeley.edu>
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- In article <1k1nn0$b8d@agate.berkeley.edu> aephraim@physics3 (Aephraim M. Steinberg) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan23.224608.16959@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko) writes:
- >>In article <1jms14$ibn@agate.berkeley.edu> aephraim@physics3 (Aephraim M. Steinberg) writes:
- >>>In article <wwadge.727584610@csr> wwadge@csr.UVic.CA (Bill Wadge) writes:
- >>>>I was browsing through one of the many 'pop' physics books,
- >>>>
- >>>> .. towards a detector which records every photon ..
- >>>>
- >>>>Is this possible? Can one really build a device so sensitive that it will
- >>>>detect 100% reliably every photon that enters it, and never
- >>>>go off by accident?
- >>>>
- >>>>Seems unlikely, but then I'm not a physicist ...
- >>>
- >>>Does seem unlikely, doesn't it? But it will happen one day (just about).
- >>>
- >>No, it won't. It's general property of QM that if you have inelastic
- >>scattering (photon-detector interaction is inelastic, of course), there
- >>always exists non-zero elastic part in the cross-section (see Landau's
- >>QM I, chapter about non-elastic scattering).
- >
- >Thank you for the correction. I haven't looked up the reference yet,
- >but I can believe the result; by adding "(just about)" I mean to acknowledge
- >that no process is 100% efficient, but that one could get arbitrarily
- >close in principle.
- >
- >Nonetheless, I am curious about a particular inelastic process which seems
- >to me to be 100% efficient (in principle, of course), and I wonder whether
- >(i) Some idealization I assume is not even possible in principle, OR
- >(ii) Your statement holds not for cross-sections but rather for scattering
- >amplitudes, implying that interference effects could be arranged to make
- >the total elastic cross-section go to zero.
- >
- >The instance I have in mind is a superconducting micromaser cavity. If
- >an atom in an excited state, whose excitation is resonant with the cavity,
- >is sent through the maser, it has some chance of decaying. As the atom
- >propagates through the cavity, it undergoes Rabi oscillations, emitting
- >a photon, reabsorbing it, and so on. Walther's group in Munich has
- >shown that by correctly selecting the atom's velocity, it is possible to
- >cause it to decay most of the time. Now, if the cavity is lossless,
- >it seems to me that there exist incident k-vectors for which the probability
- >is exactly 100%. True, in a real experiment, there is a superposition of
- >different velocities, and the cavity isn't ENTIRELY lossless, but are these
- >issues of fundamental importance, or is it perhaps unfair to neglect edge
- >effects when the atom enters or exits the cavity, or is my picture correct IN
- >PRINCIPLE, and the theorem somehow evaded in this case?
- >
- Now I'm intruding into the area I'm not really fluent in. I don't think
- one can really say that resistance of superconductor is 0 ; it's
- possible to prove that it's less than $\epsilon $(what is the current
- value of it, BTW ?) You can show than terms up to the sertain order in
- resistance are zero; but the possibility for nasty high-oreder effect
- which will cause dissipation still remains.
- Corrections ?
-