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- From: Leigh Palmer <palmer@sfu.ca>
- Subject: Re: ATOMS & ELECTRONS
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- In article <1jipr8INN9vo@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> Angelyn P. Williams,
- angelyn@fridge.Jpl.Nasa.Gov writes:
-
- >Leigh: QM is based on some postulates to be sure, but I
- >can't figure how this is an empirical observation upon which quantum
- >physics is founded right now. Care to enlighten? (always willing to
- learn...)
-
- Empirically Rutherford showed that the atomic nucleus of gold (and, by
- plausible if great extension, hydrogen) is quite compact. Maxwell
- predicted (though he was dead at the time) that Thompson's electrons, the
- other component of atoms, should crash into the compact nucleus in a
- brilliant burst of electromagnetic radiation. Bohr observed that they did
- not, and that they had never done so. He made up a rule, ad hoc, which
- did not *explain* why electrons don't crash into the nucleus, but which,
- if Nature followed it, had as consequences *both* that fact and the very
- precise scheme by which hydrogen *did* radiate under suitable
- circumstances. The fact that the rule had more than one physically
- observed consequence made it attractive as an explanation, so today we
- say that Nature follows this rule. That really simply shifts the question
- to one of asking why She should follow the rule; it does not answer the
- question, as you have pointed out.
-
- Of course we do not use Bohr's formalism any more, and Nature's rule
- turns out to be different from the one Bohr proposed, if only by h-bar.
- (The orbital angular momentum of the ground state of hydrogen is zero
- rather than h-bar.) According to the more modern picture (which we'll
- call Schroedinger's), the electron in hydrogen is actually more likely to
- be found in the nucleus than in any other equal volume of space, so in a
- very real sense the electron does exactly what one would have expected,
- given the limitation of its intrinsic claustrophobia. We might just as
- well say that the electron does not fall into the nucleus because it is
- by nature restless, and the nucleus is too confining for its taste.
-
- Whether Nature follows Bohr's or Schroedinger's rule is not a question
- which is susceptible to resolution. To believe that either represents
- something real is a fallacy, technically refered to as "reification",
- against which I have declaimed elsewhere in sci.physics. It appears that
- we can never hope to answer the most fundamental questions about the
- nature of the universe. Our greatest aspiration is the reduction of the
- number of such questions to the smallest value which can be reached, and
- it is possible that we shall never know what that irreducible number is.
-
- Leigh
-