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- From: ian@inf.ethz.ch (Ian)
- Newsgroups: sci.nanotech
- Subject: Re: Theoretical limits
- Message-ID: <Jan.21.22.53.19.1993.5208@planchet.rutgers.edu>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 03:53:20 GMT
- Sender: nanotech@planchet.rutgers.edu
- Organization: Dept Biochemistry, University of Bristol, UK
- Lines: 59
- Approved: nanotech@aramis.rutgers.edu
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- < call for feasability study deleted>
-
- >
- >[Although I do not share Mr. Dunphy's pessimism, I second his proposal
- > empahtically... Before we can do this in more than a handwaving
- > way, however, we need molecular simulation software. Does anyone know of
- > any usable PD codes,
-
- I believe that the Gromos software of Prof van Gundsteren is free (you might
- have to pay for the tape) if not actually PD. Failing that it's getting
- quite difficult to acquire free MD software because companies are now
- realizing that a great potential market exists. Some people are even suddenly
- finding that they are no longer permitted access sources that they wrote :-(
-
- (btw MD = Molecular Dynamics, I hope nobody is going to seriously suggest a
- Quantum approach ?)
-
- > or is there any interest in a sci.nanotech-based collaboration to produce
- > such a beast?
-
- Count me in. I'm not sure that it's strictly necessary, however. If we could
- agree on an exchange format it would be easy to knock up a set of conversion
- programs to generate whatever format your software required.
-
- > --JoSH]
-
- w.r.t the proposed feasability study, to what tests do we whish to subject
- any proposed designs. As i see it, there are * things to consider:
-
- 1) Chemical Legitimacy: Is the structure actually possible within the laws of
- chemistry. (Is there an existing expert system that would assess this ?
- Some of the more user friendly MD packages will 'parse ' a potential
- structure and report open valencies etc. but I wouldn't take their word
- as gospell) failing this shgould we appoint a commitee of our more
- 'chemical' contributors ?
-
- 2) Conformational Stability: Does the structure dekay into another, more-
- stable conformation when subjected to Energy Minimization and/or MD ?
- Which force-field do we consider most accurate for this determination ?
- What temperature do we require the structure for withstand, for how long ?
-
- 3) Can the proposed structure be readily synthesized ? This is less
- important because given a functional but un-makeable device, we could
- probably rework the design until it was plausible. (As above, is their an
- expert system that can do this. I know that several of the 'great'
- pharmaceuticals houses have such programs but that they do not admit to
- using them because their is some doubt about the patent/copyright on
- things designed by a machine (in some countries at least).)
-
- 4) Does it perform the task claimed, will it do so under simulation? How
- robust is its behaviour ?
-
- With regard to 2 and 4 is it possible for someone to set up a Dynamics-Server
- (not sure whether I could all out machines are heavily used (but we're getting
- more>) that would recieve a design in a standard format and subject it to
- a standard regiem of Energy Minimisation and Dynamics ?
-
- One other small niggle. Whenever people have suggested this before, nothing
- has happened! What is it, are you all lazy ? (Or is it really impossible ?)
-