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- From: km@ky3b.pgh.pa.us (Ken Mitchum)
- Newsgroups: sci.med
- Subject: Re: Complete Physical (was Re: Thyroid info needed)
- Message-ID: <162@ky3b.UUCP>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 01:09:10 GMT
- References: <1993Jan15.083930.619@news.wesleyan.edu> <1993Jan15.170332.4523@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> <1993Jan16.183321.622@news.wesleyan.edu> <1993Jan18.160230.19693@speedy.aero.org>
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- In article <1993Jan18.160230.19693@speedy.aero.org>, nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel) writes:
-
- |> It's my understanding that a routine complete physical is not terribly
- |> useful. Once in a while, somebody has a condition detected through routine
- |> tests, but the probability is too low to make the cost worth it for
- |> asymptomatic people.
-
- Absolutely true. It has always been very difficult to get the point across
- that "doing a physical" on someone without a complaint seldom results in
- finding anything.
-
- ...
-
-
- |> But most preventive care has little to do with doctors. There are a handful
- |> of routine exams that are useful. But most of what I would consider
- |> preventive care is a matter of education on things like nutrition and
- |> what symptoms actually mean anything.
-
- Again, you are right on target. Most of the gap between what people want from
- their doctors and what they perceive to get could be made up for by decent
- patient education from somewhere. Part of the problem is that many doctors
- assume that the patient understands things that he/she doesn't understand. I don't
- know how many times I have spent several minutes explaining something to a
- patient, only to find out later that he/she didn't understand what I was talking
- about.
-
- |>
- |> As for acute illness or injury, people go to emergency rooms because they
- |> don't know where else to go. Yes, that means they haven't established a
- |> relationship with a doctor, but surely it isn't worth draining a couple of
- |> grand a year for tests that are rarely useful in the name of establishing
- |> such a relationship.
-
- A major problem with our current system is that we have done everything possible
- to sabotage the traditional doctor-patient relationship, and the traditional
- generalist physician. We have made spending time with the patient, talking and
- examining the patient into activities which are seen as a waste of time, because
- they are not reimbursed.
-
- |> Miriam Nadel
-
- I don't remember seeing your posts before, but I think you are on target. What
- a refreshing article!
-
- -km
-