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- From: wright@duca.hi.com (David Wright)
- Newsgroups: sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
- Subject: Re: Canadian healthcare system
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 18:49:34 GMT
- References: <1993Jan25.130426.750@fuug.fi> <C1FC0p.6EM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
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- In article <C1FC0p.6EM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan25.130426.750@fuug.fi> an4140@anon.penet.fi writes:
- >
- >>I heard a radio program extolling the virtues of the Canadian national
- >>health care program. The guest could find nothing wrong with it, and
- >>said it ought to be the model for the US.
- >
- >>Surely there must be another side to this argument. Are there no
- >>shortcomings to the Canadian system? And even if that were so, is
- >>it adaptable to the US?
-
- >There are several things wrong with it, and it is not all that much
- >cheaper than the cost in the US.
-
- Guess again: in 1990, the US spent 12.4% of GNP on health care;
- Canada spent 9.5%. That's not exactly chump change. (Figures
- herein are from the article in the September 1992 issue of Consumer
- Reports. I suggest that any American who hasn't read that article
- keep his/her trap shut until they do -- it explodes a lot of the myths
- about the Canadian system.)
-
- >One generally agreed problem is that many "standard" procedures are
- >not done in Canada,
-
- Such as? "Generally agreed" by whom?
-
- >and while the Canadian plan often picks up the costs, it does not pay
- >the travel,
-
- What travel? And what plan in this country does pick it up (other than
- being able to deduct travel to/from treatment on your income tax,
- assuming that you can qualify for medical deductions)?
-
- >and it does not help defray the development costs, which US care does.
-
- It does? This is news to me.
-
- >For another, one must find a primary care physician, and all else
- >must be referred through that doctor; I believe that changing such is
- >difficult.
-
- Why? About half of Canadian physicians are family practioners. (As
- opposed to 13% in the US.)
-
- >Also, there are other cost-cutting limitations.
-
- Given that medical costs are exploding, what's wrong with limiting
- them? Just saying "limitations" illustrates nothing and proves nothing.
-
- >The biggest problem is that it is run by government bureaucrats, who
- >SO FAR have not been too bad. "To err is human; to foul things up
- >takes a computer; to really make a mess of things takes a government."
-
- Ah, NOW we get to the real source of Herman's bile. Of course,
- because they're Evil Government Bureaucrats (tm), they're going to
- foul up and do TERRIBLE THINGS, and do them ANY DAY NOW. As opposed,
- I guess, to those saints on earth who work at insurance companies,
- who, because they're part of the Private Sector, can be trusted.
-
- It's too bad that Pavlov didn't have Internet access; he could have
- skipped all the dog experiments and just watched Herman foam at the
- mouth whenever government is mentioned. Sheesh.
-
- -- David Wright, Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc. Waltham, MA
- wright@hicomb.hi.com ** my opinion, not necessarily Hitachi's **
-
- It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that
- man.
- - Jack Handy, SNL
-