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- Subject: Re: Depression; was: Re: Thyroid info needed
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- From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
- Date: 24 Jan 93 12:23:13 EDT
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- In <2445@hsdndev.UUCP> rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu writes:
- >
- > Certainly it makes sense to look for physiologic problems causing
- > fatigue, but in a primary care setting it will be rare to find any.
- > The point I was making was that rather than saying "it's depression"
- > too quickly, the evidence suggests that primary care physicians
- > are in fact far too slow to make this diagnosis.
-
- Gee---
-
- Are you sure this is still true, even now, with the so-called 3rd generation
- antidepressants available? My understanding is that Prozac is now one of the
- 10 most frequently prescribed drugs in the USA, & if you add that to Zoloft &
- Wellbutrin I bet ... well, I'd be surprised if all these prescriptions were
- coming from psychiatrists. It would be interesting to know (maybe someone does
- have figures??) what %age of (e.g. Prozac or Zoloft) prescriptions come from
- psychiatrists & what percentage come from primary care physicians, & then to
- compare that against (e.g., Elavil or whatever was popular pre-Prozac). I
- wonder if this ratio has changed since the advent of antidepressants without
- such obnoxious anticholinergic(sp?) side effects (which I bet most primary care
- physicians would just as soon leave to the psychiatrists to deal with).
-
- IMHO -- up until the last 6 years or so, medicine really didn't HAVE very good
- pharmacological treatment available for mild-moderate depression. The side
- effects of the tri-cyclics & the MAOI's were so unpleasant to many patients
- that many of them preferred to tolerate mild-moderate depression rather than
- putting up with the side effects of the medication. It was only if the
- depression became more severe that the disease actually seemed worse than the
- meds. & for a more severe d3epression, the primary care physician WOULD
- (appropriately) refer pt to psychiatrist for eval & treatment. So (again,
- IMHO) I would think that -- in the past -- primary care physicians might have
- been reluctant to diagnose mild/moderate depression, exactly BECAUSE that meant
- facing a pretty abysmal array of treatment options, & who wants to say to a
- patient "Well, it looks to me like you're moderately depressed, but to be
- totally honest, there's not a whole helluva lot I can do for you for that. I'm
- sorry that you feel lousy. Want a referral to a psychotherapist so that you
- can talk about it?" It SURE seems a lot more appealing to be able to say,
- "Well, it looks to me like you're moderately depressed, & you're in luck;
- there are several new medications which should be able to start helping you to
- feel better within a week or so, most likely without serious side effects."
- Don't y9ou think this might change the reluctance to diagnose depression on the
- part of primary care physicians?
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- Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
- Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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