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- From: des@thrain.anu.edu.au (David Stewart 249-4502 room 134)
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- Subject: Re: Non-Standard Analysis and philosophy
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:17:45 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan21.203027.27202@ulrik.uio.no>, solan@smaug.uio.no (Svein Olav G. Nyberg) writes:
- |> In article <TORKEL.93Jan21204806@bast.sics.se>, torkel@sics.se (Torkel
- |> Franzen) writes:
- |> |> In article <1993Jan21.180359.21766@ulrik.uio.no> solan@smaug.uio.no
- |> |> (Svein Olav G. Nyberg) writes:
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- |> |> >Under which philosophies of mathematics is non-standard
- |> |> >analysis possible, and to what extent?
- |> |>
- |> |> Your question makes no apparent sense. Non-standard analysis is simply a
- |> |> field of mathematics that exists, hence is possible.
- |>
- |> I am serious, Torkel.
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- Just to throw my 2c worth in...
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- In 1988 I heard Peter Loeb give a series talk on non-standard analysis at
- Gothenburg, explaining how to get non-standard constructions using ultrafilters
- (so that the full theory of types can be used, and you can use n'th order
- predicate calculus etc and do, e.g., non-standard topology).
-
- Being a computational type I did a bit of thinking and came to the conclusion
- that it is impossible under any reasonable model of computation to do anything
- with ultrafilters.
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- First order theories may be different. Add a symbol w satisfying
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- w > 1, w > 2, w > 3, ....
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- I think you can get away with any other consistent assumptions about w.
- Is it prime? Is it even? Is it a perfect square? Making consistent assumptions
- about w might become a bit of a head-ache, but working in the world of
- expressions with w does not seem outside constructive mathematics.
-
- Ultrafilters on the other hand....
-
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- David Stewart Program in Advanced Computation
- des@thrain.anu.edu.au School of Mathematical Sciences
- Australian National University
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