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- From: amlogan@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Adam Meredith Logan)
- Subject: Re: Irrational stamp problem
- Message-ID: <1993Jan20.234427.28691@Princeton.EDU>
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- Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 23:44:27 GMT
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- In article <C16DI1.MD@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Taylor) writes:
- >In article <2338@sjfc.UUCP>, dmc@sjfc.UUCP (Cass Dan) writes:
- >|>
- >|> You have an ink stamp which is so amazingly precise that, when inked
- >|> and pressed down on the plane, it makes every circle of irrational
- >|> radius (centered at the center of the stamp) black.
- >|>
- >|> Question: Can one use the stamp three times and make every point
- >|> in the plane black? [assume plane was white to begin with, and
- >|> ignore the fact that no such stamp is physically possible]
- >
- >A very nice problem !
- >
- >Why not do it with only two stampings, where the second one is moved an
- >infinitesimal distance from the first one, thus covering all the points
- >left out by the first ? JUST KIDDING !!
- >
- >Here's the real answer, that it can be done with three stampings.
- >
- >It is a constructive proof, but the details are *very* messy, and probably
- >incomplete. I hope the idea is clear.
- >
- (proof deleted)
- >Well, I warned you it was messy. I feel sure that some more elegant
- >construction/proof must exist.
- >
- >Can anyone find one ?
- >
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- > Bill Taylor wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz
- >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- > You are what you remember.
- >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Here, how's this?
-
- Punch first at (0,0), then at (1,0). If (x,y) is still unstamped,
- then x^2 + y^2 and (x-1)^2 + y^2 are both rational numbers, whence by
- subtraction x is too, and so y is the square root of a rational number.
- Therefore, punching a third time at, say, (0, pi) will work.
-
- Adam
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- (This was on the 1990 Putnam, right?)
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