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- From: pound@ruf.rice.edu (Christopher Brian Pound)
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- Subject: Re: what is a phoneme
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 21:37:44 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.095659.5244@memstvx1.memst.edu> connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
- >In article <1993Jan27.040154.20592@midway.uchicago.edu>, goer@ellis.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz) writes:
- >> What is a phoneme?
- >
- > A phoneme is the minimal psychological construct representing
- > certain sounds which occur in a given language.
- >
- >Attack if you dare; I'm spoiling for a fight.
-
- Hey, yeah, a fight over the phoneme! It happened in the 30s! It happened in
- the 60s! Now, it's the 90s, and we're well overdue for a good brawl over
- mentalism in phonology. :)
-
- > stupid attempts to locate phonemes out there in actual speech, as the
- > structuralists before Chomsky tried to do.
-
- If, by "locate phonemes ... in actual speech," you mean denying the mental
- reality of phonemes, you're not reading the same structuralists I am!
-
- Actually, Kenneth Pike's perspective turns out to be pretty interesting,
- because he contradicts himself:
-
- "The sounds of a language are automatically and unconsciously organized by
- the native into structural units, which we call PHONEMES." (Pike, 57)
-
- It seems clear that the sounds of a language *are* automatically and
- unconsciously organized by the native, but I don't think I've ever understood
- the Aristotelian mania that drives the search for absolutely distinct
- "structural units." Sometimes that makes sense, and sometimes it don't.
- You can't expect everything to fit (cf. Feyerabend, _Against Method_).
- What's important here is that Pike definitely believes in the psychological
- reality of phonemes; he doesn't think of them as things that *only* exist
- as linguistic models (and neither do I).
-
- Intriguingly, Pike seems to reverse himself:
-
- "a PHONEME is one of the significant units of sound arrived at for a
- particular language by the analytical procedures developed from the basic
- premises previously presented." (Pike, 63; this whole quote was originally
- underlined)
-
- Fabulous, Ken! Phonemes are artifacts of linguistic methodology! Good call;
- there's definitely something to this. But then again, what about that
- "Psychological Reality of the Phoneme" stuff? That's easy to explain;
- the organization of the sounds of a language *is* psychologically
- real, and Pike's methodology usually tells us how to predict that
- organization. OK, no problem then. A phoneme is a conceptual by-product
- of a linguistic methodology founded on abstract objectivism; it is used to
- categorize the sounds of a language in a manner that is, hopefully, congruent
- with the way a native categorizes sounds psychologically.
-
- The interesting question is probably, when and why does the phoneme fail?
- Pike mentions the "under-differentiation" and "over-differentiation" of
- phonemes, along with the "neutralization of oppositions" as special cases, and
- he introduces the "ARCHIPHONEME: A special type of phoneme of limited
- distribution, postulated to account for under-differentiation of phonemes"
- (Pike, 233). The 'archiphoneme' seems strongly reminiscent of the 'epicycle,'
- don't you think? I guess the mind is a strange place -- one where things
- just don't always break down into minimal units (contra Connolly :).
-
- Anyway, now we have an idea about when the phoneme fails (or needs serious
- emendation), but what would be really special is to know why. I've heard
- rumors that we're stuck on phonemes as a by-product of alphabetic literacy,
- and I've already mentioned the Aristotelian drive to categorize absolutely.
- Bakhtin's explanation is much more interesting: "The desire to see language
- as a static synchronic system, according to Bakthin, was symptomatic of a
- kind of linguistic necrophilia, a nostalgia for deceased languages, whose
- systems could be fixed precisely _because_ they were dead. The fundamental
- categories of Saussurean linguistics, which are phonetic (units of sound)
- and morphological (units of sense) ultimately derive, he argued, from the
- categories of Indo-European comparative linguistics, precisely those
- categories most appropriate to a dead or alien [?] language. Saussure belongs
- to a tradition of reflexion on language which Bakhtin labels ABSTRACT
- OBJECTIVISM, i.e. a view of language which strives to reduce its constantly
- changing heterogeneities into a stable system of normative forms" (Stam,
- et al., 13). In doing this, Saussure is "an heir to the tradition of
- Descartes, Leibniz, and Condillac" (ibid.).
-
- Personally, I'd say that was a pretty serious insult.
-
- Pike, not to mention the many other theorists of the phoneme, is clearly
- subject to Bakhtin's criticism. Some of the "subpremises" he founds his
- theory on are particularly telling: "(1) A phonemic orthography is the
- easiest one for the native to learn to read and write ... (4) There is only
- one accurate phonemic analysis for a specific set of data ... (12) Fluctuation
- can occur between full phonemes ... (14) Every language has consonants and
- vowels ... (15) Certain kinds of segments may be vowels in one language but
- consonants in another, and vice versa ... (21) Occasionally a single segment
- may constitute a consonant and a vowel simultaneously" (Pike, 62). From these,
- we can infer that writing is very high on Pike's agenda, that ambiguity won't
- be tolerated (*despite* "fluctuation"), and that traditional phonological
- categories (inherited from Dionysius Thrax, ~100 B.C.!) are to remain
- unchallenged, even if there is some confusion about them.
-
- Deriving the fallibility of the phoneme from the inflexibility of writing is
- no huge chore, at this point. Linguistic categories are obviously subject to
- the tyranny of the letter. Comparative linguistics began as a study of
- written language, after all (I'm thinking mainly of Franz Bopp), and Pike's
- whole project is described as an attempt to reconcile speech with
- writing ("to lead the student to arrive at an [written!] analysis which
- parallels the vague or explicit observable reactions of speakers to their
- own sounds" (Pike, 64; again, all underlined)). If such a reconciliation
- should prove to be fundamentally flawed, I guess I wouldn't be surprised.
-
- So, in summary, I agree that sound patterns *are* organized mentally;
- however, that organization is *not* minimally constructed, as Connolly
- would say. Rather, it has a socially, historically, and idiosyncratically
- constructed dynamism to it. This is not exactly ...
-
- > how speakers conceptualize sounds
-
- because I'm afraid I agree with Pike in locating these sound patterns in
- the unconscious. Anyway, I'd say the desire for phonemic minimalism results
- simply from linguistics' positivist, superliterate heritage.
-
- [Disclaimer: I'm only guessing. :) ]
-
- --
- References:
-
- Pike, Kenneth L., _Phonemics: A Technique for Reducing Languages to Writing_.
-
- Stam, Robert, et al., _New Vocabularies in Film Semiotics_.
- --
- Christopher Pound + "Homer deserves to be thrown out of the
- Anthro Grad Student + contests and flogged."
- pound@ruf.rice.edu + -- Heraclitus
-