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- From: swf@tools3teradata.com (Stan Friesen)
- Newsgroups: sci.lang
- Subject: Re: Correlation Lengths of Language Changes
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 16:44:18 GMT
- References: <1993Jan18.231913.7227@leland.Stanford.EDU> <Jan.18.22.09.21.1993.9749@pilot.njin.net> <1775@tdat.teradata.COM> <1993Jan25.233640.1895@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
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- In article <1993Jan25.233640.1895@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, malouf@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Rob Malouf) writes:
- |> In article <1775@tdat.teradata.COM> swf@tools3teradata.com (Stan Friesen) writes:
- |> >Get real! The only people that would lack a general word for 'tree' would be
- |> >those living where there *are* no trees! In fact so-called 'primitive' peoples
- |> >often have a *better* vocabulary for describing living things than 'modern'
- |> >languages.
- |>
- |> Actually, there is nothing universal about the category `tree'. We
- |> impose our own organizational system onto the world, and there is no
- |> reason why other languages might not organize things another way.
-
- Well, if you want to get *picky* :-)
-
- In more precise language I would be surprised to find any language in which there
- was not a word whose semantic field overlaps widely with that of the English
- word 'tree', except in regions where there are no objects in the semantic field
- of the English word 'tree'. [In particular, there is usually a fairly clear
- distinction between woody and non-woody plants, that is likely to be reflected
- in the vocabulary of any language].
-
- |> What I would be surprised to find was a language which had no
- |> superordinate categories but instead view each kind of plant as a
- |> complete unique sort of thing.
-
- Oh, absolutely - I might even doubt if the speakers of such a language where
- human! Generalization is a major part of the human psyche.
-
- [BTW, that was an interesting point about 'primitive' languages having more
- elaborate pronoun systems - not that I really find it surprising, some of
- the most involved pronoun systems I know of are in polynesian languages].
-
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