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- From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
- Newsgroups: sci.lang
- Subject: Re: question of 'fluency'
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.041253.46783@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 04:12:52 CST
- References: <1993Jan25.112426.1@unca.edu>
- Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
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- In article <1993Jan25.112426.1@unca.edu>, bthurman@unca.edu writes:
- > since the term 'fluency' seems so subjective, it has been my practice in
- > dealing with students who ask "are you fluent in greek?" or the like to reply:
- > sometimes, especially when i'm over there, persons will come and speak to me in
- > greek in my dreams. if a person dreams, one may suppose that one could be
- > approaching fluency when this happens.
- > would welcome critique of this as a response, if reasons accompany response.
- > thanks, bearded Bill Thurman
-
- One thing that has often occurred to me is that fluency is a rather
- useless indicator of a person's command of a language, at least in
- view of what we normally think of as "command of a language." We've
- all known people who can babble away with great ease in a language
- they are butchering wildly. They have either simply lost their
- inhibition without gaining command, or have internalized what I guess
- ESL theorists call an "interlanguage."
-
- Conversely we've all known careful and hesitating speakers who rarely
- make a grammatical mistake (probably because it matters to them), and
- we might want to allow that these are very compentent speakers but not
- fluent ones.
-
- As for dreaming in a language or of a language, in the 60s I ran into
- mystically inclined romantics who were convinced they understood
- Sanskrit in their dreams or while they were under the influence, but
- I'm here to say they did not...!
-
- -Ken
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