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- From: swf@tools3teradata.com (Stan Friesen)
- Newsgroups: sci.lang
- Subject: Re: Correlation Lengths of Language Changes
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 21:29:28 GMT
- References: <Jan.8.21.14.52.1993.18293@pilot.njin.net> <C0pHKw.12z@spss.com> <Jan.12.02.44.16.1993.26312@pilot.njin.net> <1ivg91INNc92@pith.uoregon.edu> <Jan.13.19.46.38.1993.24240@pilot.njin.net> <1993Jan18.231942.7570@leland.Stanford.EDU> <Jan.18.22.30.55.1993.1013
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- In article <Jan.18.22.30.55.1993.10130@pilot.njin.net>, hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:
- |>
- |> I think personal pronouns were an innovation in language and could
- |> and probably did get borrowed. They're probably short for 'this_man',
- |> 'this_woman', 'that_man', etc... I think you give too much credit
- |> to primitive man busy chasing lizards to sit around inventing
- |> pronouns as if he did not have anything else to do.
-
- Stone age man spent more time sitting around the camp fire talking than anything
- else. It turns out that hunter-gatherer economics requires *less* intensive
- effort than anything since. A hunter had *far* more spare time than *we* do.
-
- And, *third* *person* pronouns may well have originated as you say - many times
- over (for instance from Latin to Romance). First and second person pronouns
- are far more fundamental - their lack would indicate a lack of the concept
- of 'self' and 'other'. This perception is *fundamental* to consciousness itself,
- it is central to human experience.
-
- |> Man, when did camels get domesticated ? Horses ? Cattle? When did
- |> they get out of the stone age? What condition were the
- |> American Indians in around 1500 CE? How about Australian
- |> aborigines ?
-
- What has domestication to do with anything? A hunter-gatherer invaraibly has
- a better natural vocabulary than a farmer or rancher.
-
- Talk to an Australian aborigine sometime - you will be surprised at thier
- sophistication!
-
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