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- From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
- Subject: Re: Cars and suburbs
- Message-ID: <C1HB5y.6r5@rice.edu>
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- Organization: Rice University, Houston
- References: <C1AvEr.8MB@quake.sylmar.ca.us> <1jsuiqINN8it@morrow.stanford.edu> <C1EwL3.KMt@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:49:10 GMT
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- >In article <1jsuiqINN8it@morrow.stanford.edu> silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva) writes:
-
- >>... Exactly where and how does any government in America 'force
- >>people into trains'?
- >
- In article <C1EwL3.KMt@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us
- (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
-
- >Well, I live in Los Angeles and there are all kinds of incredibly stupid
- >things going on to try to make it more difficult to drive here
-
- Ahh, there is enlightenment on the left-coast, after all.
- Houston shares a lot of LA's problems with traffic congestion and
- pollution. I do hope that one of these cities is able to set an
- example of how to wean us from the auto-addiciton.
-
- >The government is also forcing us to pay for initially, and then
- >subsidize the operation of them.
-
- Hmmm. Sounds like the subsidy that auto drivers have received for
- years to support their addiciton. Maybe it is way past time to
- redirect that subsidy to underwrite a social recovery program.
-
- >Well, I live in such a place. Why should any tax monies be
- >re-directed for any kind of transportation systems? Why should I pay
- >for your transportation? Why should you pay for mine?
-
- Excellent questions, but asked about 50 years too late. You see, the
- taxpayers HAVE been paying for auto transportation for years. We've
- even sent our children off to war to pay for outlandish consumption of
- gasoline. The war against Japan? The war against Iraq?
-
- >I don╒t care whether you drive a car, ride a bike, or stay home in bed.
- >All I care about is whether you start forcing your views on me against
- >my will. (It╒s particularly bad since your outlook is so irrational.)
- >
-
- But the views of the auto-addicted have been forced down our throats
- for at least two generations. How do we protect a contrary view?
-
- >Oh come on, I live in the city with the worst pollution in the
- >country (Los Angeles)
-
- And that's a thing to brag about? The Houston City Fathers take every
- opportunity they can find to mask news/information about the true
- level of the pollution problem here.
-
- >and I see very little real impact from the air pollution here in
- >general, and much of what does exist is not from cars.
-
- Mayhap you should visit one the fine teaching hospitals in your great
- polluted city--or even phone the American Lung Association. Either
- would be very educational for someone with your abysmal lack of
- knowledge (that's called ignorance--stupidity would be to perpetuate
- it).
-
- >As I see it, there have been a lot of mistakes made in US middle
- >eastern policy (in particular, not sending in the marines when the
- >american wells were nationalized years ago), ...
-
- OK, so who pays for this brilliant piece of political and military
- strategy? The American tax-payer? For who's benefit--the
- auto-addicted? You have hoisted yourself on your own petard.
-
- >Gee, I thought individual US citizens were paying for their oil, not the
- >US in general. ...
-
- More ignorance. Do you really think the cost of a barrel of oil
- includes the price of the war with Iraq? Or the cost of cleaning up
- the mess the refiners and drillers made in places like Louisiana, or
- the cost of cleaning up after spilled tankers around the world?
-
- --
- sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
- Wanna ride?
-