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- From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
- Subject: Re: Let's have another look at it . . .
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.192947.4866@vexcel.com>
- Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
- References: <1993Jan19.163304.18582@vexcel.com> <727514033snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:29:47 GMT
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- In article <727514033snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
- >
- >In article <1993Jan19.163304.18582@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com writes:
- >
- > > There are a couple of problems. While the farmers affected by the GR
- > > did not ask for it, their leaders and elites did in many cases. How
- > > is the process to be changed when such people request this kind of
- > > aid, whether or not they are propped up puppets? A
- > > related problem is that the US lifestyle is now seen as so glamorous
- > > in many areas that they are asking for it, though they may not know
- > > what they are actually asking for. How do you suggest that these
- > > problems be dealt with?
- >
- >I think you had previously answered this question yourself, in your
- >post on the World Bank as it affected Morocco. The funds are clearly
- >channeled to selected social groups who meet the lending criteria, and
- >it is they who get the nod *from overseas* to proceed. The propping up
- >of "puppets" is surely, albiet in good faith, to protect investments.
- >
- >The problem now is that people who have been dislocated from their own
- >traditions and made redundant by technology, have nothing else to do
- >than sit around watching TV (if they are not chopping down forests
- >trying to make a go of it). To them, especially when they are also
- >denied an education much less material prospects, anyone parading
- >their wealth as Americans do so ostentatiously might well be seen as
- >glamorous.
- >
- >Of course you get the occasional young buck, driving around in a
- >clapped out cadillac, wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses as there
- >are here in Australia as well. But the hub of the community, with its
- >time taken up raising children, building schools, getting health care
- >and sanitation facilities installed, are *very much* focussed on the
- >local scene and simply do not have the energy left to be worrying
- >about Uncle Sam.
-
- Some places, they are occasional, and sometimes they are more common.
- In any case, we have described the dynamics, but how to deal with them
- is still the problem. If local people are doing what you describe in
- your last paragraph, then it seems they still have an opportunity to
- choose what direction they wish to go. In some cases, that is not so.
- In the case of Ladakh thet I previously have mentioned, diversion of
- scarce water to industry in an arid climate has removed the opportunity
- to preserve local agriculture. Some of the communities have withered
- though others farther from the roads persist. But the roads do continue
- to get built.
- >
- >There are other related matters concerning risk assessment, and the
- >development of other types of employment which is where I depart from
- >Jacobs' analysis. Horticulture, and Agricultural and Environmental
- >Science, as well as the Arts and other cultural activities are being
- >developed here in Australia, not necessarily to provide people with no
- >hope of employment with skills appropriate to industrially "productive"
- >work, but to channel their energy into helping to restore our natural
- >ecosystem and build a better quality of life anyway.
- >
- >There is all that farmland out on our wheatbelt cleared barely thirty
- >years ago and now being abandoned as marginal, which needs trees to
- >be planted on, landscaped and restored, and turned where suitable to a
- >high quality mixed "subsistence" economy. That has already begun here,
- >not by government planning but by local people giving away residential
- >land in their towns, and young energetic families with a reasonable
- >level of savings seeing an opportunity and taking up the offer.
- >
- >That is how the Ord River Scheme was returned to being a successful
- >and profitable area, long after the governments who had lost so much
- >money developing it had abandoned it as one of the most embarrassing
- >white elephants in Australia's history. You see, intelligent people
- >who roll their sleeves up and get on with the job turn it around,
- >provided they are recognised and encouraged *without* government
- >funding from the tax base, or foreign loans.
-
- Reminds me of a program in the US in which power was provided to a
- Navajo reservation via solar panels. The locals were trained to
- install and maintain the equipment. Local benefit and local
- employment that fit in with their desired lifestyle.
-
- In some cases, good programs like these are in a race with World
- Bank or government programs that effectively remove such opportunities.
-
- I think we are in agreement of the value of these types of programs
- but they seem to be the exception when compared with the other
- programs we have described. As such it is one side of the coin.
- The other side is to try and stop the harmful plans from
- continuing to do their damage.
- >
- >I wonder whether McGowen has considered the idea of economic growth
- >built around environmental and cultural heritage rehabilitation yet
- >as a necessary plank in his political platform, while I think of it?
- >
- >Might be an idea to step on it.
- >
- >Gil
-
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