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- From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
- Subject: Re: N-Plants in Eastern Europe
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- References: <Greenpeace.24Jan1993.2204@naughty-peahen> <Jym.24Jan1993.2304@naughty-peahen>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:14:43 GMT
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- In <Jym.24Jan1993.2304@naughty-peahen> Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
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- >=o= The first is that nuclear power is very costly, and that
- >the money spent on it could more effectively be used for
- >alternate energy strategies. It seems to me that the World
- >Bank's analysis (referred to this latest press release) adds
- >support to this argument.
-
- It seems that Eastern Europe has a lot of Uranium, which
- would make fuel rather a pittance in a nuclear system. Coal may be
- more costly to mine/buy, and given the winters in certain parts of
- the region, coupled with terrain, it's likely nuclear is the system
- least likely to be affected by that snowstorm that stops coal trains
- in their <heh> tracks. This is just speculation, but as I'm sure you
- will agree it is certainly a factor to be considered.
-
- >=o= (Another part of this first problem involves the type of
- >power involved. Is electric heat common in Eastern Europe?
- >Are electric heating devices readily available? I haven't
- >been able to find answers to these questions.)
-
- I can ask a few friends still in/from the former USSR. One is
- in the Ukraine, another in a class I have on alternate days. I doubt
- they will have performed an in-depth study of the situation, but
- remember that electricity need not be used strictly for heat. For
- example, that electricity might power wells that pump natural gas
- into the city mains, and from there to homes. I seem to recall that
- most buildings used steam heat, but where the steam comes from is
- certainly open to speculation and later confirmation.
-
- >=o= The second problem is that nuclear energy concentrates
- >political power in the hands of a central authority. Surely
- >the Eastern European nations are suffering from having had
- >too much of that already!
-
- At the risk of sounding pro-government, I strongly doubt
- there is much willingness to allow electrical supply to be open
- to strict economic principles. Even in the USA we allow monopolies
- with regards to power production. A would-be tyrant charging more
- and more for power would soon be a major annoyance. Now let me
- add another bit: think of the East European area. 90% of the adult
- males have former military service. Would you, as the Power Baron,
- want several thousand torqued off, trained people wanting your hide?
- I doubt it. The government doesn't seem able to suppress such
- things anymore, and as recent history has shown the people in the
- area are not overly adverse to standing up for what they think is fair.
- Granted, what they think is fair is not always what USA residents think
- s fair, but I believe the potential exists and hence said Power Baron
- is likely aware of public sentiment concerning his rates and reliability.
-
- >=o= And so it would seem that a major argument against nuclear
- >power in the West applies just as well in Eastern Europe: the
- >more centralized a power source is, the less control people have
- >over their own lives.
-
- Considering the acceptance the People of the area have towards
- being forgotten, this isn't exactly suprising. However, this is not a
- fault with nuclear power per se, but rather a fault with the aforementioned
- Power Baron and his relationship with the people he is supposed to be
- supplying. The same could easily be said for any generation medium,
- including coal or wind. Note also that the acceptance I refer to and the
- standing up for what they believe is fair I refer to above are not exclusive
- terms. I merely means they have different lines drawn in the sand, as it were.
-
- < Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
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