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- From: cir@festival.ed.ac.uk (C Revie)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Real vs Govt Energy costs (Re: Roads and Taxes)
- Message-ID: <30755@castle.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 16:25:33 GMT
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- >In article <30539@castle.ed.ac.uk> cir@festival.ed.ac.uk (C Revie) writes:
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- >>
- > Something else to consider: Look at the shambles that government-ownership
- >has done to the UK's industrial system: The airlines, the oil and coal firms
- >...need I say more?
-
- I would argue that the shambles in the UK is because we've been ruled by
- a party that believes there is no such thing as good government, so
- doesn't bother. Moreover, the cabinet as far as I know has not got two
- science degrees to rub together, and thus tend to make scientific
- decisions on dubious idealogical grounds.
-
- For example compare one aspect of the UK energy policy with the German
- Govts policy. The Germans say we want to phase out coal because it will
- become uneconomic, its environmentally unfriendly, etc. So what do they
- do?
-
- They tell there coal producing regions that coal will be run down over a
- number of years, giving these regions time to use the income they
- receive to plan for alternatives. They subsidise the coal produced to
- enable these regions to do this. In the meantime they take steps to
- limit the environemntal impacts of coal, by encouraging CHPs etc.
-
- What do the British do?
-
- They systematically run down the coal industry (in under ten years),
- the most recent example the announcement to close thirty pits within
- six months (!) therby destroying the local economies (See the example of
- South Wales).
- Admittedly this has been part of long term trend in the decline of the
- use of coal, however this does not excuse hamfisttedness.
- And the UK now imports (!!!) millions of tonnes of coal from abroad,
- despite the fact we have massive reserves of our own.
- All in the name of the free market.
-
- Now I believe that we should reduce our use of coal as fast as possible,
- but the German approach while it may seem to cost more, prevents massive
- social disturbance (with all that entails in terms of health and social
- problems).
-
- As one who in his his early teenage years was a raving leftie, I view
- ideology (whether of the right or the left) as a hinderance to
- government. I would argue that Labour policies of Nationalisation and
- thereby centralisation of the UK energy industries resulted in a sytem
- that was moribund and resistant to change. However, even though I
- initially was fiercely critical of the policy of privatisation of the
- energy industries to begin with, I would now argue that they have not gone
- far enough, and that we have merely substituted a government monoply for
- private duopolies. And further that the govt has let privatisation
- abrogate its resposibilities (yes govt must have responsibilities
- otherwise there is no point in having it).
-
- Chris
-