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- From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein)
- Subject: Re: Why not 120 VDC ? Why invert?
- Message-ID: <C1BxFo.MKq@panix.com>
- Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
- References: <1993Jan23.000753.14523@michael.apple.com> <1jr751INN16a@gap.caltech.edu>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:04:35 GMT
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- regarding putting incandescants on 120V DC. yep. it works.
-
- personal experience: Here in NYC the electrical utlity company (Con
- Edison) until recently supplied both 120V AC (or 220 via dual legs, but
- that's another story)
- AND... also could supply, in SOME areas of town, 120V DC. yep, that's
- right, direct current.
- This was because way back when, DC was part of the original distribution
- system.
- No new hookups were allowed after more or less 1970, but the buildings
- that had it were allowed to keep it.
- The building I managed had DC coming into it, which was used for the
- elevator motor. (for reasons beyond the scope of this discussion DC is
- much more civilized for operating elevators).
- For the hell of it, I hooked up a lighting circuit to it and the light
- output from the INCANDESCANT bulbs was just about the same as on teh AC.
-
- More relevantly, a friend lived in an apartment building which had DC
- outlets (yep, here in NYC, on 110th street near Columbia). He and his
- roomates had marked off which outlets wer DC and which were AC (for some
- reason, the outlets were physically the same.) They could, and did, plug
- incandescant lamps into the DC outlets, but nothing else.
-
- Flourescants CAN be designed to run on DC, but you need special
- circuitry designed for it. a common place you;ll find this is:::
- On buses (they operate on the ?12v? ?24v? electrical system)
- On the NYC subway system: third rail power is 600V DC, which gets
- stepped down to something or another.
-
- Most other subway systems are also DC. some use a very strange 25 Hz.
- others have gone to some pretty high voltage AC circuits...
-
-
- So yes, you can set up 120V DC with series battery units, and run stuff
- off it.
-
- Why not commonly done?
- 1) 120V is less forgiving than 12v for most stuff. remember, we're
- dealing with a lot of DYI types here.
- 2) A LARGE number of electronic applainces are designed for (nominal)
- 12V dc, usually obtained via a transformer. trying to kick 120VDC back
- down to 12vdc ain't easy.
- 3) You have LOTS of options on charging a 12volt system. charging 12oV
- is pretty diffcult in comparison.
-
- btw, if you want to see some strange things done with direct current,
- take a look at a phonecompany central office. you've got everything from
- AC to 48V Dc to 12V DC and all sorts of other wierd stuff.
-
- dannyb@panix.com
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