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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: Roads and Taxes (was Re: NEWS: True Costs of )
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.162551.15797@ke4zv.uucp>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
- References: <51868@seismo.CSS.GOV> <=b#s4vc@dixie.com> <30539@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1993Jan21.120241.7316@ke4zv.uucp> <51904@seismo.CSS.GOV>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:25:51 GMT
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- In article <51904@seismo.CSS.GOV> stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan21.120241.7316@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >> Only in the liberal welfare state Northeast. Down here in Georgia
- >> we have both the lowest taxes *and* the best roads. That's because
- >> we don't let the Legislature get their sticky fingers on the gas
- >> tax money. It's mandated by law to go *directly* to the State DOT
- >> which in our state is essentially a totally autonomous body that
- >> doesn't answer to the Legislature. They are a professional group
- >> of highway engineers, not politicians.
- >
- >Well, I applaud the fact that you keep that tax money from the politicos,
- >but that is only a small contribution to the condition of your roads.
- >The main advantage you have over the NE is the lack of snow and ice.
- >It is no small coincidence that the states with the worst road conditions
- >are those along the freeze/thaw line - despite the fact that at least
- >one (PA) is reliably conservative.
-
- Yep, we don't have much problem with frost heaves, though we do have
- some. Even Georgia has some cold weather in the winter.
-
- >BTW - you now have given me an example where directed taxes work to
- >offer to all those who argue that my suggestion of a large, directed
- >federal gas tax couldn't work. I'll just say "Why not ask Gary in Georgia?"
- >Thanks.
-
- Scale and responsibility Richard. Directed taxes can and do work when
- those who levy the taxes and those who spend the taxes are closely
- coupled to those taxed and those who use the results of the tax spending.
- The problem with a Federal tax is that it is too decoupled from the
- local people paying it. Georgia is a net donor state when it comes to
- Federal fuel taxes. We collect far more than the Feds send back. And
- what does come back often has unacceptable strings attached. Our state
- tax, on the other hand, seems to be very effectively utilized. I'd
- support raising the State tax by 15 cents a gallon, if the Federal
- bite were reduced a similar amount. We wouldn't need the Federal funds,
- and Federal strings, in that case. In fact, I think that idea should
- be applied more generally with respect to taxes and regulation. The
- Feds can't do anything as cheaply as local people can do for themselves.
- And the Feds aren't responsive to local conditions and requirements.
- Our entire system has gotten out of whack with the Feds claiming the
- lions share of revenues and dribbling it back to localities entwined
- in miles of red tape and restrictions. Local politicians clamor for
- Federal dollars in "revenue sharing" like pigs at a trough because
- it's "free" money. The only thing free about it is that the local
- politicians are free of the *responsibility* of raising it. This decoupling
- of responsibility has bloated spending at all levels. So don't use me
- as a recomendation for increased *Federal* taxes of any kind. I will
- speak glowingly of the results of *local* tax funded projects where
- deserved. Local boondoggles paid for by local money result in local
- politicians out on their cans. A local boondoggle paid for by Federal
- dollars results in some DC bureaucrats getting more perks while the
- rascals in Congress keep their jobs.
-
- Gary
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