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- Subject: Energy Taxes (was Re: Gas Tax (was: Re: NEWS: True Costs ...))
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 13:08:39 GMT
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- dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose) writes:
- >While Richard brings up may good points about drastically increasing the
- >tax on gasoline, there is one huge negative here. It is the people who live
- >and work west of the Mississippi. The vast majority of people who live and
- >work in the rural west are extremely dependent on their vehicles for their
- >livelyhood. The farmers, ranchers, truckers, the people who live in
- >those areas that have very hard winters, and more. The automobile is not a
- >luxury, it is a necessity. Many of the people I have mentioned have a hard
- >time making ends meet as it is, and raising the gas tax to the level many in
- >this group seem to want will probably force them into bankrupcy.
-
- >So while Richard may think that the gas prices might eventually come back down,
- >how many people in the rural west will be ruined during the high price phase
- >if these plans are enacted? The last bout of artifically high gas prices
- >(oil embargo) ruined sooo many people out here that it took years for some
- >states to recover. They cannot afford another such hammering especially if it
- >is by our (the nation's) own hands.
-
-
- >Plus I doubt if Congress would allocate the funds raised in the way Richard
- >would want to see them spend. Bottom line here: I do not trust Congress
- >with such a large pot of money to pork out on.
-
- >So you urbanites just remember, you are not the only ones in this country.
- >Alot of this nation's wealth is located in the rural areas. Placing them in
- >economic ruin by artifically raising gas prices will come back and haunt you
- >in more ways than at the pump. Remember to take in the whole picture and
- >not just the snap shot of your locality.
-
- >Don Palmrose
-
- This is a good point, however what if you have a general energy tax on
- all forms of non-renewable energy carriers which replaces income and
- other business taxes. If the energy is taxed at source (or point of
- entry into the country), then the amount of administration would be
- minimal.
-
- The effect on rural areas would be softened, as they would gain through
- having no income taxes or business taxes to pay. They would only pay
- tax everytime they bought fuel. Therefore any system which allows them
- to tap reduces their tax bill, until the the government puts up the
- energy tax to compensate, thus providing a further incentive towards
- greater energy efficiency and the consumption of renewables.
-
- Market forces would come into effect, as long as you pay for it you can
- use as much energy as you like.
-
- However, an energy tax is an indirect tax, and thus takes no regard of
- ability to pay! A way round this would be an energy allowance, of so
- many mega-joules per person per year which would be exempt from
- taxation.
-
- However this is only really viable for electricity or gas delivered
- straight to the home. Otherwise a coupon system would have to be used
- for petrol with all the bureaucracy etc that that would entail.
-
- Chris
-