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- From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Greenpeace press releases -- fact or fiction?
- Keywords: energy environment press
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 04:41:32 GMT
- References: <1993Jan20.234658.2413@pmafire.inel.gov> <58992@dime.cs.umass.edu> <1993Jan21.225328.27641@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan21.225328.27641@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino) writes:
- >In article <58992@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
- >>>>>On the news last night: Greenpeace releases a commissioned report (from
- >>>>>someone in the U.S.) demonstrating that the chances of a meltdown accident
- >>>>>in a CANDU reactor are 1 in 17, which they point out are better odds than
- >>>>>the chance of throwing snake eyes with dice.
- >>>
- >>>Probably not. Their attorneys would plead incompetence.
- >>
- >>Since all estimates in this "field" are backup up with a lot of hand-waving
- >>it would be tough to prove anything more than use of different
- >>assumptions.
- >
- >Okay, Victor, here's your big chance:
- >
- >Tell us all how the chances of a meltdown from a CANDU are 1 in 17, not
- >1 in 17,000,....
- >
- >I want to see your model, your assumptions, and your *measured data* to
- >back this up.
-
- You should read what I write, before you respond. I did not claim that
- the chances of a CANDU meltdown are 1 in 17, so I have no obligation to
- defend that claim. I did claim that the current state of the art in
- forecasting the chances of a meltdown only allows for
- highly subjective and very non-definitive results. Thus, I have no
- confidence that the Greenpeace numbers mean anything more than the
- discredited Rassmusen report's numbers did. I have, repeatedly,
- posted my reasons for believing this, citing from the scholarly literature.
- If you want, I'll repost.
-
- BTW, I'm still waiting for some meaningful numbers from you in defense of
- EdF. Meaningful in this case means some independently verified figures on
- how much EdF has invested in nuclear, debt load, and, say, delivered costs.
- In the absence of these, claims about the success of the
- French nuclear power effort seem contentless.
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- yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu
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