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- From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
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- Subject: Re: US as No. 1 (3 data books)
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 16:51:59 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.114023.28748@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
- >Well, certainly the "look, everyone wants to live here" bit of
- >"logic" is a factor, but there are many more that are probably
- >more important. In particular, the issue of individual freedom
- >and choice (at least, until the drug war started in earnest).
- >
- >Americans look at other countries and see things by which
- >Americans are not constrained:
- >
- >Official state religions
- >Mandatory government/military service
- >Mandatory separation of college-bound vs. trade-bound students
- >in the early/mid teenage years
- >Unreasonable (to Americans) search and seizure in the name of
- >public safety
- >Mandatory shop closing hours (a la Germany, Nederlands, etc.)
- >Legislation without true representation (House of Lords)
- >
- >Add to the above the military might of the country, and you have
- >a citizenry who feel they are powerful as a country and powerful
- >as individuals. They can own as many guns as they like, they can
- >drive an automobile with no instruction after passing the most
- >absurdly minimal of tests, they can worship whomever they like
- >publicly, and they can stand in front of the White House and call
- >the President a horse's ass as long as they're not so loud as to
- >be considered disturbing the peace.
- >
- >That kind of personal (and national) power breeds arrogance and
- >contempt; it is human nature. I seem to recall that England
- >herself had a rather healthy case of it a few hundred years back,
- >and it ended up costing her The Empire.
-
- I would say that American are not Arrogant as much as others say.
- With all the self depricating done oin the media that people buy,
- and base policy on, America is a nation that continuously feels
- it is on the edge of failure. While proud, i do not feel that
- there is a whoel lot of arrogance [esp. when immigration is a major
- force making "American" a difficult-to-define term!].
-
- I also think that "arrogance" was not the cause of England's
- relative decline over the last 50 years. There were a lot of
- non-arrogance oriented events (WWII's debt) that did a far
- "better" job than an assumed attitude...
-
- >--
- >Curtis Jackson '91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
- >cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com '92 Collie/Golden "George"
- >DoD #721 KotB '91 Hawk GT '81 Maxim 650
- >"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
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