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- From: bbaker@cscns.com (Brian Baker)
- Subject: Brehmstrehhlung X-rays
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:39:27 GMT
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- Ok, I chalk this post up to too many people in the biotech business
- not knowing enuff chemistry.... (sarcastic joke, no offense meant!)
-
- I just graduated with a BS in Biochemistry, got my first job in
- Denver doing RFLP for paternity analysis and trying to perfect a
- non-isotopic method of doing genomic Southern blots.
-
- Anyway, a couple of the guys in the lab are doing dot blots in attempts to
- detect CMV virus and do HLA typing. They started with 5 millicuries of
- 32-p (now they're up to 10 or 15). They're working behind 1/2" plexiglass,
- which is sufficient to
- block all betas coming from the source. However, one guy took the geiger
- counter in front of the screen and noticed a few thousand counts. I
- told him it was somthing along the lines of X-rays coming from the plexi-
- glass. This person has since talked with a couple of people (a state of
- Colorado Radiation Safety officer and some guy at Amersham I believe) and
- now is convinced (and has others in the lab convinced) that working with
- 32-p behind plexiglass is very dangerous because of the X-rays coming
- off. They have scavanged some lead bricks from an old scintillation
- counter and won't work without stacking the lead in front of the shields
- (this lead is about three inches thick and VERY heavy). I do my work
- with a max of 0.5 mCi (usually .25 tho) and they call me crazy when I
- don't put the lead in front of me. A guy who sits at a desk about
- twenty feet away from the 32-p room is worried about X-rays bombardidng
- him while he's at his desk. The way I understand this is:
-
- 1) The X-rays are caused by betas being deflected by lead
- in the plexiglass, which causes a rapid change in velocity
- and a subsequent X-ray
-
- 2) These X-rays are of low energy (compared to X-rays you get
- at the hospital) and the extinction coefficient is only
- a few feet or so
-
- 3) 5 millicuries, which is a large amount of 32-p, will not
- generate enuff X-rays from plexiglass to be concerned about,
- certainly .5 mCi behind 1/2" plexiglass is safe
-
- Oh yeah...this same person claims X-rays to be 'ionizing radiation'
- Now I had a pretty good Nuclear/Radiochemistry class and I certainly
- don't remember X-rays being classified as ionizing radiation. This person
- also claims X-rays and Gamma rays to be "almost" the same.
-
- So my questions are....
-
- -> Are these Brehmstrahlung X-rays something to be concerned about?
- -> What is the mCi limit of a high energy beta emitter (such as
- 32-P) which will produce a harmfull level of X-rays from
- plexiglass (or very thin lead shielding)
- -> Am I way off base in saying this guy should learn the facts before
- causing unnecessary worry?
- -> Just what is the ionizing potential of a Brehmstrallung X-ray?
- -> What is the ionizing potential of a higher energy X-ray?
- -> I was taught you would get more X-ray dosage from a transcontinental
- flight then you would from being exposed to a high level
- Brehmstrallung X-rays. Is this true?
-
- Thanks for any help in this matter. If I'm full of it, please let me know.
- I don't get the time to read any newsgroups anymore, so please mail any
- responses to me ( bbaker@cscns.com ). Oh yeah... the text I had in
- college went by the name FKMM (after its authors, Friedlander, Kennedy,
- and two other guys). I sold it back and now can't find a copy anyhere.
- Can anyone recommend a good text on Nuclear and Radiochemistry that would
- help us in matters like these?
-
- Thanks for the help......
-
- -Brian Baker Immunological Associates of Denver
- bbaker@cscns.com (303) 301-6027 (work)
- (719) 637-1140
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