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- From: ken@iat.holonet.net (Ken Easlon)
- Subject: Re: "Falling" Asleep
- Message-ID: <C1Avtp.6n4@iat.holonet.net>
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- References: <106264@netnews.upenn.edu>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:32:12 GMT
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- In article <106264@netnews.upenn.edu>,
- rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) writes:
-
- >In article <C18q4v.507@iat.holonet.net> ken@iat.holonet.net
- > (Ken Easlon) writes:
-
- >>In any event, I think Mickey and I agree that the sense of "down" in
- >>dreams is imaginary. This would be consistent with my explanation of
- >>Ginzberg's falling sensation as being the normal sleep-time loss of
- >>gravity perception at a time before sleep has fully arrived.
-
- >It's also consistent with you losing your major source of information
- >about which direction is down when you fall asleep. As you lose your
- >somatosensory perception you feel as if the bed, floor, chair,
- >whatever, is dropping out from under you. That's more in line with
- >what *I* experience when I get a falling sensation when I'm on the
- >edge of sleep.
-
- Sounds like agreement to me.
-
- I was awakened from REM sleep last night and recall dreaming that I was
- crawling around looking for something. The dream body position was
- consistent with my actual body position, almost fetal. Before my thumb
- starts making a bee line for my mouth I'm going to declare victory and bail
- from this interminable debate.
-
- Too bad, I didn't really get into my theory of dream imagery having a large
- visual sensory component, with REM being a way of providing an enriched
- Rorschach input for the formation of dynamic dream scenes.
-
- Then there's the idea that if the image only makes sense if it were a scene
- viewed with the head at a weird angle (like looking up at a bridge), we
- simply imagine ourselves looking up at the bridge. This puts me an Mickey
- in agreement about dream body and actual body having little relationship
- some of the time, but I still say they are firmly connected at the head.
-
- --
- Ken Easlon
- ken@holonet.net
-
-