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- From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble)
- Subject: Re: Mysterious accelerant ???
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.150320.6601@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
- References: <C0vJ56.Ay4@world.std.com> <1993Jan16.152826.2131@en.ecn.purdue.edu> <C10nD2.IEr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 15:03:20 GMT
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- In article <C10nD2.IEr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan16.152826.2131@en.ecn.purdue.edu> ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble) writes:
- >
- >>What about this? Someone with a source of LOX, just take 4 or 5
- >>"5 gal" plastic jugs of LOX, placed in a room a few feet apart..
- >>and A small fire + small amount of "fuel" started (by delay)
- >>near one container of LOX... The plastic would pretty much
- >>vanish instantly, releasing the LOX (-312F), so it would all hug the
- >>floor and start an instant white hot fire. LOX fires often dont
- >>have "flames" rising into the air, but are just a VERY bright hot
- >>area, where the (smokeless) combustion is going on.
- >
- >Yeah ..
- >
- >I can imagine someone lugging dewars around. Plastic jugs?? right...
- >plastic gets very brittle at those temperatures. The LOX will be
- >boiling. I don't think so...
- >
-
- I have carried LN2 around in 2-1/2 gal plastic antifreeze jugs..
- They are good for short time storage (20-30 mins). The outside
- frosts up and "self-insulates" somewhat. A Rubbermaid thermos
- or 5 gal cooler also works for longer retention times. LN2 is 10F
- or so colder than LOX (around -312F). You are correct that the
- plastic will become brittle when cold, but normal handling hasn't
- broken any of them yet. I would suspect that dropping one
- would make it shatter as does about anything else soaked in LN2.
-
- Outside of rapid boiling when first cooling down a warm jug,
- the LN2 boiloff rate is not excessive.. Looks like champange?
-
- A couple of weeks ago, I was at a local welding shop (where my
- refrigerant is made), and the employees cornered a large mouse in
- the office area. In the past mice/rats have gotten in the walls
- and died, stinking for 2-3 months.. I went to the back room,
- put about 3-4 gal of LN2 in a 5 gal Rubbermaid jug.. and went to
- "fight" with the mouse. Totally doused a 10' X 10' office floor with
- LN2.. whole room fogged up solid instantly, whole floor was covered
- with boiling LN2.. We busted 2 floor tiles (lots of popping noises),
- but we got the mouse... froze him solid. But is was fun.
- --ghg
-