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- From: callison@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: shooting under water?
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 14:08:21 GMT
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- In article <1jmv49INN3r2@mojo.eng.umd.edu> chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
- #In article <1993Jan20.204947.2230@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
- ##Hmm. I also wonder about the pressure aspects of firing a gun in space.
- ##Here on Earth (or is this Mars?), the outside of a gun barrel is being
- ##experiencing the pressure of 14.7 pounds per square inch. Without that
- ##outside pressure, is it possible that a gun firing a maximum load in space
- ##would burst?
- #
- #Chamber pressures in long rifles are generally greater than 40,000PSI. Another
- #15PSI (which would exist if the inside of the cartridge was at atmospheric
- #pressure) would never even be noticed. (for that matter, probably couldn't
- #be measured!)
-
- Actually, the question in space isn't so much the pressure; it's the
- temperature. At space temperatures (average overall temperature for the
- Universe is approximately 3 Kelvin, or -400-odd degrees F/-270C), metals
- become very brittle, and the sudden impulse of cartridge ignition would
- almost certainly be sufficient to turn it into a grenade...Of course, in
- Earth orbit, or anywhere in the Solar system, for that matter, the
- temperature is much higher, but it's still colder than Antarctica in
- July...(The temperature in the thermosphere is very high, due to the
- interaction with solar radiation, but the molecules are so sparse that
- they actually take on ballistic trajectories rather than fluidic flow.)
- (Atmospheric Thermo was one of my meteorology classes where I actually
- did well :-)
- Any mechanical engineers out there care to take a shot at this one? At
- what temperature will typical gun steel/alloys become too brittle for
- safe use?
-
- James
-
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- DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work...
- "God didn't make men and women equal. Colonel Colt did."
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