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- From: elmar@ocf.berkeley.edu (Elmar Stefke)
- Newsgroups: rec.climbing
- Subject: MORE CRAGMONT BOLTING
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:49:22 GMT
- Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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- It has been pointed out by a couple of people (John, Bruce) that bolting
- at Cragmont may actually be a beneficial thing for various reasons:
- 1. Environmental concerns: a close inspection of the trees used for
- toproping will reveal that there has been no damage whatsoever (I was
- up there last weekend), no broken off branches, no abraided bark, and
- no uprooting. I would call that a pretty good record considering that
- the place has been in use since the 1930's. For those who are still
- concerned there is the option of slinging a rock (right side) or placing
- one or more pieces in a crack (left side).
- 2. Traffic/Beginners: I have never seen or heard of anybody intentionally
- or unintentionally messing up somebody elses set-up. It is true that there
- is alot of traffic up on the rocks, especially during the summer, but the
- majority of people take good care not to step on slings etc. As for that
- remaining minority of clumsy oafs, who may step on your slings, they'll
- always exist, bolted or not. Instead of stepping on your slings, they may
- now drop biners etc. on your head while setting up on the bolts.
-
- I must say outright that I do not endorse the use of bolts, although my
- hypocritical self often wishes for ten more of those things on a runout route
- or poor belay station or to avoid that 5th class exposed descent....
- Hey maybe I'll even put up a bolt route myself someday, the point is that
- these bolts are not necessary as evidenced by a long history of low
- environmental impact and a good safety record (has anybody ever died at
- Cragmont?).
- John does present a good point on the bolting war, since I am definitely
- in favor of pulling them, as are other people on the net. Let's hope
- that sooner or later the person responsible gets the message, runs out of
- money and/or bolts, moves to France etc...
- Speaking of bolting at Indian Rock, it is definitely the other evil. I've
- taken about a year to get psyched enough to do the center overhang in the
- pit and now do it as a routine problem on the traverse. It always amazes me to see
- people set up a rope there, when they don't even have the physical strength
- to do the problem. There is so much other stuff to do, why turn a 20'
- boulder problem into a 20' toprope. The bolts there only encourage people
- to set up. I fell into that trap once when I started out and even though
- I made it I regret it to this day. It's like doing a hard lead with a bolt
- every four feet: are you really climbing????
- -Elmar Stefke
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