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- From: Arthur_Noguerola@vos.stratus.com
- Newsgroups: rec.audio
- Subject: Re: CD vs. LP again
- Message-ID: <1k4b32INN469@transfer.stratus.com>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 21:39:46 GMT
- References: <1993Jan19.221047.7313@bnr.ca> <1190792@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>,<1993Jan26.191547.5316@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan26.191547.5316@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tom@afthree.as.arizona.edu (Thomas J. Trebisky) wrote:
- >kurts@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Kurt Strain) writes:
- >
- >> ... That's why people spend upwards of $25K for a turntable system,
- >
- >Are there actually people who spend this kind of money for a TURNTABLE ??!!
- >What have they been smoking?? Get with it man, haul those LP's and that
- >turntable to the dump! I'm sorry, anyone who spends this kind of cash
- >on a total system even, has lost all credibility with me, that's for sure.
- >
- >I got rid of my turntable and all my LP's years ago and no regrets from
- >me. I can start fresh and build a music collection with superior technology.
- >
- >Are these people actually serious about advocating LP's over CD's ?
- >Do I need to clean the wax out of my ears? They want the scratches and
- >pops, the needle reaming their records smooth on every playing. Dragging
- >a rock thru congealed petroleum, yeah, that's the technology for me!
- >They want the compressed dynamic range, a whole 30 minutes or whatever
- >it is of music before you have to flip the thing over? The wonders of
- >RIAA equalization curves, low tracking weight tonearms skidding across
- >your precious vinyl when some clod bumps your turntable.
- >
- >I can't think of any reason to prefer LP's to CD's, except that some
- >music has not been properly remastered for CD's and is available in a
- >good LP -- or is not available at all on CD. I think the LP heads are
- >just hoplessly biased by shelf-fulls of LP's they don't want to admit
- >are obsolete. I have done my time with LP's and CD's both, the choice
- >is clear to me.
- >
- >(Is this LP-advocacy serious -- have I just misinterpreted some kind of
- >net-joke?)
- >--
- > Tom Trebisky ttrebisky@as.arizona.edu
- >
- >This program posts news to thousands of machines throughout the entire
- >civilized world. Your message will cost the net hundreds if not thousands of
-
-
- YES this LP advocacy is more than serious...
-
- just because you cant see spending money on high end stereo
- equipment doesnt mean its not worth. or else we should all
- consult with you before making any purchase at all. NOT.
-
- if you are happy with 3rd rate MODERN technology that EVEN the
- CREATORS OF have admitted IN PUBLIC is not "perfect" the so be
- it. it seem obvious to me NOT one person in this group pays any
- attention to the press that so dearly supposedly follow (well
- many do!!). if the had they would already know that SONY and
- PHILIPS have admitted that current CD technology is not correct.
- that they themselves have supposedly fixed it via SBM
- technology. That keith o. johnson has developed yet better
- technology than that. that the chesky brothers have
- improved....ad infinitum. well you should have the idea by now.
- digital is not perfect. it may be one day but it aint now.
- some people actually get headaches and fatigued from listening
- to digital sources. that CD manufacturers are ripping the
- public off and laughing all the way the bank. it sis obvious
- from some writers to rec.audio that they are unhappy with some
- aspect of CDs. so what do we have.. as usual a majority of
- folks like CDs that does not make them perfect (nor does it make
- LP bad or good). BUT CD technology as EVERY engineer here
- (stand up and be counted) will bet his left nut when saying what
- he/she can prove about digital. but the fact remains that it
- aint perfect. now if you engineers know MORE than SONY/PHILIPS
- you shoudl be working for them not pontificating here. you
- should be advancing the state of teh art so that stupid backward
- LP spinners like could join the CD hoards and stop destroying
- our precious vinyl. but i dont think so. you would all rather
- blabber on about nothing cogent to solving the problems because
- you dont believe in them. well "the check isin the mail".
-
-
- can ONE of you out there say that CDs have NOT improved since
- 1978??? no i dont think so. so why be so quick to say it is
- now just cause you cant here the diff??? well the simple answer
- is becuase YOU are happy. well accept the fact that not every
- one is...even the developers.
-
- if you are happy with CDs great so be it.
- if you are happy with LPs great so be it.
-
- does any one of you love the MUSIC?????????????
-