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- From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
- Newsgroups: rec.audio
- Subject: Re: Preamp and Amp
- Message-ID: <185084@pyramid.pyramid.com>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 02:40:19 GMT
- Sender: daemon@pyramid.pyramid.com
- Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
- Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation
- Lines: 75
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- In article <1993Jan21.164550.1069@bnr.ca> gpz750@bnr.ca (Dave Dal Farra) writes:
- >
- >I've read the Bell papers, and the Floyde E. Toole papers
- >and books on Sound and Perception. My career is inaudio
- >and acoustics and I've also been designing speakers
- >for about 10 years now. I understand all the arguments
- >I've heard so far.
- >
- Apparently you missed the ones on the BENEFICIAL effects of some
- types of noise and distortion. Also the ones on the specific
- TYPES of distortion that are annoying in extremely small
- quantities compared to the ones that are pretty harmless....
-
- >It comes down to this....
- >
- No, it doesn't.
-
- >We seem to be fragmented into two groups: Those who beleive Golden-ears
- >exist and those who don't. I do, others don't. Fine.
- >
- No, we are divided into two OTHER groups.
-
- o Those who insist that you MUST prefer LP's if you have
- golden ears.
-
- o Those who believe that the LP bigots are not the ONLY golden
- ears out there.
-
- >Additionally, there are two other groups:
-
- Geez, man, what's this "groups" problem you have? Aren't you
- a bit old for this? Particularly your slanderous tendency to
- put people in groups they don't belong in by your own standards?
-
- >
- >a. Those who believe CD's sound superior on the basis of lower noise,
- > better seperation, etc. i.e. Lon.
- >
- WAtch putting words in my mouth. YOu made a bs statement that
- LP's have lower values. I merely stated that they do NOT.
- I made no statement on superiority, those are YOUR prejudices
- being asserted.
-
- I merely said that those who claim numbers for LP are usually
- full of baloney...the CD's NUMBERS are almost always better.
-
- How your twisted mind decided that was a statement on sound is
- beyond me....particularly since the phrase "illusion" of better
- imitation of live performance seems to have been mentioned
- somewhere.
-
-
- >b. Those who can live with the vinyl noise only because they think
- > LP sounds closer to the real thing. i.e. me.
-
-
- c. There are also some people perfectly aware of the real numeric
- differences in LP and CD who STILL prefer LP. Most of these
- actually know what they are talking about.
-
-
- >
- >c. The concept that Golden-Ears are self professed ego-maniacs and that
- > their skills are hype. This is like saying it is impossible to run
- > the 100m dash in under 10 seconds because "I can't do it and neither can
- > any-one I know."
-
- No, its just that the LP bigot's constant use of the term to
- describe ONLY those folks preferring LP's over CD's...and
- insist on using $$$$ signs as a measure to boot is really
- nauseating. Particularly when the automatic assumption is
- that those lacking the LP-gospel fervor are only those with
- cheap playback equipment.
-
-
-