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- Path: sparky!uunet!nwnexus!Celestial.COM!bill
- From: bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell)
- Subject: Re: Trust Me - I'm from the Government to help you
- Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:34:05 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.053405.2005@Celestial.COM>
- References: <1578@nazgul.UUCP> <1993Jan18.194858.21798@ssc.com> <1586@nazgul.UUCP>
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- In <1586@nazgul.UUCP> bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright) writes:
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- :In article <1993Jan18.194858.21798@ssc.com> fyl@ssc.com (Phil Hughes) writes:
- :/Walter Bright (bright@nazgul.UUCP) wrote:
- :/: You cannot have the socialist policies *and* have prosperity.
- :/: It would be wonderful if you could have both, but TANSTAAFL.
- :/Once again this doesn't address reality. Unless we are willing to treat
- :/health care as a luxury, whether taxes, employers or individuals pay for
- :/health care, the costs are still there. And, in the US, about 25% of the
- :/cost is in unnecessary overhead. In Canada the overhead is around 5%.
-
- :You speak as if you believe that health care costs an irreducible value.
- :In a free market system, costs are steadilly driven down. Note that the
- :American health care system is *not* much of a free market system, for
- :many reasons which I outlined in a previous post. (And one of those suggestions
- :was how to make insurance companies more responsive to their customers.)
-
- Unfortunately the free market doesn't really apply to health care
- in the U.S. where ``health insurance'' is really a bill paying
- function where we pay the insurance companies instead of paying
- for routine health car ourselves. The insurance companies don't
- have any incentive to reduce health care costs since they make a
- percentage on all the dollars that pass through their hands.
-
- :Free market systems are full of examples of incredibly creative ways that
- :people have cut costs (which has resulted in the high standard of living
- :we enjoy today versus pre-industrial revolution America). Government systems
- :are full of examples of incredible cost overruns and lots of whining about
- :spiralling costs.
-
- May government cost overruns are on CPFF (Cost Plus Fixed Fee)
- contracts. The contractors don't have any incentive to reduce
- costs since they make a percentage on all costs incurred. I was
- a data processing managaer for 12 years for a ``Beltway Bandit''
- outside of Washington, D.C. and always tried to operate my
- department as efficiently as possible -- not realizing that this
- wasn't really what the company wanted. I would have been more
- successful to build an empire of systems programmers and staff
- instead of supporting the entire company with two computer
- professionals (we ran Burroughs mainframes, not IBM).
-
- Bill
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