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- From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
- Subject: Re: Short Squeeze on Federated Dept. Stores
- Message-ID: <C18K61.IqA@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- References: <1993Jan11.142734.1890@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil> <73403@cup.portal.com> <tnickles.727391452@beagle> <1993Jan20.190714.10142@mobil.com>
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:25:12 GMT
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- etpeters@dal.mobil.com (E. T. Peterson(Eric)) writes:
-
- >In article <tnickles.727391452@beagle>, tnickles@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Tim Nickles) writes:
- >|> Dave-M@cup.portal.com (David Russell Mottern) writes:
- >|>
- >|> >This is probably a dumb question, but where can I look to find out the short
- >|> >position of a given stock? Where did YOU get this info?
- >|>
- >|> You can get that info in pretty much any financial paper.
- >|> Look under the options section and look at the "open interest" for
- >|> the puts of that stock. OI is the number of put (or call) options
- >|> currently held by investors.
-
- The short position is not necessarily a good indicator of
- anything, because people might short for different reasons.
-
- For example, in December someone posted asking about
- Stoneridge Resources (now Acceptance Insurance) trading at 2 7/8,
- and was wondering if he should sell.
- The company was going to do a 1-4 reverse
- split, and rename itself to Acceptance insurance. Current
- holders of stock would get rights to buy a unit, where a unit
- consisted of 1 share of the new stock at $8 and a 4 year
- warrant to buy at $11.
-
- My suggestion was to short 1-3 shares of Stoneridge for
- each share that he owned. The reason being: if the stock
- rose in price, he could cover his short using his share,
- plus ($8 + $11)/4, using the unit, for a cost of $5 at most.
- By shorting 3 shares, he would get 3 * 2 7/8 = 8 5/8,
- making a profit of 3 5/8 or more per share.
-
- If the stock dropped, then he would have a wash on the
- 1 short sale and the shares he owned, but would make
- a profit on the other two short sales. He would make
- $2 for every point that the stock dropped in price.
-
- Unfortunately, you cannot short a stock under $5.
-
- Which goes to show there's no free lunch.
- But if it HAD been over $5, then this would have
- been a great way to make money, risk free.
- You would make money no matter what price the
- stock finished at.
-
- -Larry Watanabe watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu
-