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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
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- Subject: Re: Branding kids, IQ tests, smart vs dumb (Was: Re: Seminar Program)
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 21:25:41 GMT
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- References: <1993Jan20.111639.19304@athena.mit.edu> <96f1029o33cX01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> <1993Jan24.162308.2825@athena.mit.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan24.162308.2825@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
- >In article <96f1029o33cX01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, led11@ccc.amdahl.com (Lynn Robinson) writes:
- ...................
-
- You either get very few or a whole
- >bunch. When teachers are suddenly faced with as much as 25% of their classes
- >not being able to handle the material, time and time again they slow down the
- >pace.
-
- If you get one who is unable to handle the material, and is not easily
- remediated, what CAN you do?
-
- >|> simply passed ahead without having the understanding, if they had to pass
- >|> entry exams to get into subsequent classes, and if they could attempt
- >|> the exam to get into any class at any level, you wouldn't have watered-down
- >|> classes and parents would not be able to control the level of the classes
- >|> that their children attend.
-
- But they could still decide; there is plenty of choice. However, I would
- make these exams advisory, BUT
-
- >You act as though the level of the classes is fixed. It is not. The teachers
- >adjust it. My mother (a teacher) used to say that if a significant fraction
- >of the class failed, it was the teacher's fault. Teachers just slow the pace
- >to make sure that they are not at fault.
-
- THIS is what must be changed. The integrity of any curriculum depends on
- the teachers sticking to the content and level. This goes both ways; if
- you have a class where almost the entire class has an advanced background,
- it is still necessary not to use this to penalize those who belong in the
- class.
-
- Before WWII, most of the schools had a curriculum. This has almost
- vanished. They still give courses with labels, but "truth in advertising"
- would find far too much of these labels fraudulent.
-
- The success of a teacher does depend on the abilities and background of
- the students. Last semester my service course had a C average, 2 out of 33
- got A, and there were 3 F's. The previous semester, there were 5 A's out of
- 26, and no F's. I can do nothing about the input, and one cannot make a
- silk purse out of a sow's ear. But we can make silk purses out of silk.
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- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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