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- From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
- Newsgroups: misc.education
- Subject: Re: Smart kids
- Message-ID: <C1Cw9E.41J@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
- Date: 24 Jan 93 11:36:49 GMT
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- sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
-
- >Yes.. sports is a career for very few people in this world.
-
- That's right...VERY few. I don't think anyone here has used professional
- sports as a justification for putting such obscene emphasis on sports in
- schools.
-
- >But playing
- >and participating in sports (especially team sports) teaches kids things
- >that are helpful in tougher things down the road. When you play in team
- >sports you win some and lose some. When you lose, its not always your fault,
- >& when you win, its not always because of you.
-
- Let me be clear about this...it teaches that you are not responsible for the
- outcomes of your choices and efforts no matter the outcome or the effort?
- Is that a proper lesson to teach kids? Why couldn't they learn the same
- lesson by working for a grade in a class? Perhaps they would only learn
- this supposedly valuable lesson if the teacher were unfair and arbitrary?
-
- >It teaches you to persist,
- >win as a team,
-
- Indeed, it wouldn't do to encourage individualism and a belief in the value
- of individual effort and individual reward, would it?
-
- >and accept the fact you don't always get what you want
- >(i.e. win).
-
- Don't you think that is a lesson kids learn when they are 6 weeks old?
- Why can't these oh-so-important lessons be learned just as well by
- classroom efforts?
-
- >It teaches you how to handle situations when you don't
- >get what you want (lose). It teaches you how to lose.
-
- Now, there's a wonderful lesson for kids. Worse yet, the fact that
- teachers (and others) demonstrate that they think "learning to be a loser"
- is so important offers an implicit lesson itself, doesn't it?
-
- When do kids learn the lesson of winning in an intellectual arena? For many
- kids, that's an alien concept.
-
- >I still remember the days when I
- >played ball in the streets as a kid. At first, I used to be devastated
- >when I (and my team) lost. But then, you learn, you get another shot the
- >next day. You have to take the disappointments and as they come.
-
- Why is that such a valuable lesson? Any why does focusing such frantic
- attention on sports appropriate in such cases? Do you defend the positions
- of sports like football and basketball in school? (That being something akin
- to a religion, rather than a recreational activity.)
-
- >Sports is a 'meaningless' activity that prepares you for the real world.
-
- I know a lot of kids who were never involved in sports and they turned out
- just fine. MOST of the kids who were heavily involved in sports in my school
- turned out to be bitter losers (since they squandered their youth tossing balls
- rather than learning academic material). Personally, I was involved in
- sports in school for many years, but I didn't participate because it was
- "good for me", but because it was fun...entertainment...recreation. When
- I got into high school, the focus changed into an ugly focus on winning
- and mind-numbing practice, so I quit.
-
- Tell me this, why do you think football is any better than other competitive
- things like debate teams and spelling bees?
-
- --Brian
-