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- From: joe@grc.genroco.com (Joe Nordman)
- Subject: Re: Recommendations for high disk throughput
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.205507.13234@grc.genroco.com>
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- Organization: GENROCO, Inc.
- References: <THOMSON.93Jan22073952@zarda.macc.wisc.edu> <1993Jan23.002725.7620@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> <C1BFFz.EEr@news.iastate.edu>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:55:07 GMT
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- In article <C1BFFz.EEr@news.iastate.edu> john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes:
- >alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow) writes:
- >}thomson@zarda.macc.wisc.edu (Don Thomson) writes:
- >}>We are looking at upgrading our campus Usenet News server from a hopelessly
- >}>overburdened DECstation 3100 to a DECstation 5000/240. The biggest bottleneck
- >}>for handling news has been disk access time, so we're looking at options that
- >}>will allow us the highest disk throughput possible to a disk with a capacity
- >}>of at least a gigabyte. I'm looking for advice on an optimal configuration
- >}>for these needs, including:
- > ...
- >}Most of the I/O was 8 KB, but the next biggest chunk was 1 KB.
- >
- >}An IPI subsystem will probably help, but it seems a bit overkill...
- >
- >Perhaps not. A fairly recent Usenix Paper, "Why SCSI is better than IPI
- >for NFS" (or something like that), held that IPI was really only a win
- >for large sequential I/Os, for the NFS I/O mix (generally 8KB and all
- >over the disk [sound familiar?]) SCSI was a win.
- >
- >John
-
- Actually on Ultrix systems this is not true. IPI will still win. The
- paper uses a couple of arguments which are either outdated, or don't
- apply to these systems:
-
- 1) SCSI should do better for random I/O since it has a buffer and IPI
- doesn't.
-
- The newest IPI drives now have buffers just like SCSI drives (Seagate's
- Elite-3 IPI drive has a .5 MB buffer). Even when using non-buffered
- drives on DECsystems, this argument still fails since the IPI
- **controllers** extensively buffer and cache the data. The paper
- compared a situation where the IPI drive was connected to the system
- with a much less sophisticated IPI **adapter**.
-
- 2) SCSI optimizes multiple drives by placing a lot of intelligence on the
- drive.
-
- Again newer IPI drives also have this increased intelligence built in.
- Also, the IPI controllers for DECsystems provides a much higher level
- of optimization than the SCSI adapters. The IPI controllers can do
- overlapped seeks, command queueing, command ordering, rotational latency
- optimization, and command consolidation - all controlled by an on-board
- microprocessor which is running at 10 Million instructions per second.
-
- Now as Alan Rollow points out, this may well be overkill for the original
- requirement. But even for random I/O or NFS; on DECsystems, IPI is much
- faster than SCSI. BTW, all the above remains true for TURBOchannel based
- Alpha systems (DEC 3000/500 and DEC 3000/400) running OSF/1.
-
-
- --
- Joe Nordman, V.P. of R&D joe@genroco.com
- GENROCO, Inc.
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