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- From: elrond@studio.disney.com (Root System Account)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
- Subject: Re: Legalities of making PTFs available for ftp?
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:10:49 GMT
- Organization: The Walt Disney Company
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- I think that the base PROBLEM is the lack of connection (at least
- in my mind, and I suspect in the minds of many admins out there)
- between a PTF and the problem that it fixes! Sometimes when I
- call in with a problem they ship my a patch tape with several PTFs
- on it (the fix for my problem and any prereqs for the fix) and
- sometimes I get this tape with hundreds of PTFs on it (which
- looks remarkably like an upgrade)!?!
-
- For example, since we have several different AIX machines around
- running all kinds of different software with slightly different
- network setups, we have been known to run into several different
- problems all at once. In this case I was experiencing problems
- with BOTH Ethernet AND Tokenring (yup, the Ethernet driver on the
- BRAND NEW 340 was bad, and we were suffering from "the XID problem"
- on tokenring too). I called AIX support and they offered to send me
- both fixes. Great, I thought, I'll get all these network problems
- taken care of at once! Well the next day I got a box from IBM
- defect support containing 80 (no, that's not a mistake, eight zero)
- diskettes! As it turns out, they shipped me 3.2.3 on DISKETTE since
- I had failed to mention that I would prefer a single 8mm tape to
- 80 disks! I called back and asked that they ship me things on
- 8mm tape, and the next day I got that and installed my "fixes".
- So guess what? Of course, something ELSE was now broken, and I
- had to order ANOTHER PTF. Why couldn't they have just shipped me
- the fixes for the problems that I HAD rather than all of 3.2.3??
-
- Right now what I want is a stable system that doesn't require
- CONSTANT attention from me. Frankly, with the explosion of Unix systems
- here and just two of us in Tech. Support to handle all of them, I don't
- have the time to spend! We have a lot of Suns here too, and frankly, I
- don't have to install NEARLY as many patches on them as I do on the IBM
- boxes. Right now, a 970, 3 560s, and a couple of 340s are taking up
- almost ALL of my time. This is just plain unacceptable. We need a stable
- OS and if IBM can't produce one, we may just end up having to find another
- vendor who can.
-
- Basically, what I would suggest is that IBM simply put together the
- fixes related to the problem, and put those someplace where we can
- download them. What we REALLY be slick, would be a system where I
- can log into, search through a database of problem reports where I
- can see the ACTUAL PROBLEM REPORT ITSELF IN FULL and if I find a
- problem that sounds like it might be what I'm experiencing and there
- is a fix for it, to be able to download that fix (and all the prereqs
- that go with it). It would also be nice if I could submit problem reports
- via the system, and check the status of a problem report. If I submit
- a problem report with a critical status, then bells and whistles should
- go off in defect support, and someone should call me back. There should
- also be a way for me to download additional materials that might be
- required to help defect support analyze the problem. There are a number
- of other vendors that offer this kind of service, and I think that in
- the long run, it would save IBM money. But that's not my concern, my
- concern, as I mentioned above, is getting a working stable, and low
- maintenance OS for my users and right now, that's NOT AIX.
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