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- From: kevins@slow.inslab.uky.edu
- Subject: Re: Why is NeXT ignored?
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:50:47 GMT
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- Michael C. Neuman writes
- -> In article <2B66F49C.8437@news.service.uci.edu> eapu168@orion.oac.uci.edu
- (Lee
- -> Furnival) writes:
- -> >Now I must admit that I do not read UNIXWorld regularly, but the few times
- -> >that I have read it I have never seen NeXT mentioned for any reason. What
- -> >the hell? Also, I have yet to hear any UNIX freaks mention NeXT in a
- -> >serious discussion, yet they live to talk about SUN and others...
- ->
- -> NeXT is a toy, whereas Suns, SGIs, etc, are "real" computers:
- -> 1) If I need a little more power than my 68040, I can't buy a 'fast' NeXT,
- -> whereas SUN has about a half a dozen models, some of which are very high
- -> performance. (and I may not even need to buy a complete new system!)
- -> 2) Sun is directly upgradable to 24 bit, faster processors, and offers a
- -> variety of plug in Zorro cards. NeXT, on the other hand, forces a user to
- -> buy a NEW machine to get 24 bit color, only offers a faster 68040 for speed,
- -> and there exist virtually no plug in cards (since only a dimension supports
- -> them anyway!)
-
-
-
- How much would it cost you to upgrade that Sun with all the nice
- things. Bunches I bet.
-
-
- -> 3) People actually WRITE software for the Sun. NeXT is so stuck on their
- -> Objective-C crap, that no one actually writes anything. Just compare the
- number
- -> of X applications written on a Sun versus the number of NeXTstep apps
- written
- -> on a NeXT. Even the NeXT users who claim to know how to program in
- Objective-C
- -> DON'T WRITE ANYTHING. (Just take a look at the number of free 3.0
- applications
- -> on sonata (even in incoming). Consider the number of games that exist, and
- -> consider NO speech program exists for the NeXT except commercially. I
- remember,
- -> when I owned my Amiga, speech came WITH the computer, and it even had
- inferior
- -> hardware, and games were abundant because EVERYONE could program an
- Amiga--with
- -> just a little C knowledge. I'll take a ton of applications in a non object-
- -> oriented language any day over NeXT, who forced Obj-C down our throats,
- -> everyone claims to like it, then never actually produce anything.) (I only
- -> use games as an example because, in general, people are much more motivated
- -> to write games than anything else, and since NeXT is proud of their
- college-kid
- -> market, it would seem THEY would be the ones to be producing tons of games.)
-
- Horse pucky! 95% of all free X apps are just pain junk. The nice apps
- are not free and will cost you an arm and a leg. Anyone know how much a
- development pkg costs that will run under X on the Sun. Don't forget it needs
- to have all the tools that the NeXT has.
-
- -> 4) The ONLY benefit NeXT offers over Sun is the user interface. And if you
- -> consider that, how often to you hear Mac being referred to as a 'real'
- -> computer by anyone other than a computer illiterate?
- ->
-
- The user interface is EVERYTHING when it comes to working (using or
- developing) on a computer. If you spent hours fumbling with a crappy interface
- it doesn't matter how fast you can compile. Sure the NeXT may not be as fast as
- a Sun but it definitly gets the overall job done quicker.
-
- If you want an NFS server buy a Sun. If you wan't to get something done buy a
- NeXT.
-
- -> --
- -> Mike Neuman mcn@b62103.student.cwru.edu
- -> "To make a machine that will be proud of us." - Thinking Machine's motto
- ->
- ==============================================================================
- -> * Maintainer: NeXT netrek archive--b62103.student.cwru.edu:/pub/games/netrek
- *
-
- --
- _______________________________________________________________________________
- I'll cross my heart and hope to die
- but the needle's already in my eye.
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- Kevin Solie
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