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- Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1993 12:11:16 -0500
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- Subject: Abstract of CAF-News 02.55
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- [See the end of this article for information about obtaining the full
- CAF-News electronically and about CAF-News in general.]
-
- Topics discussed in CAF-News 02.55:
-
- 1-2 review the case of Steven Brack, a student at Ohio State
- University whose behavior on OSU systems led to his expulsion
- 3-10 discuss sexual harassment policy generally, and how it relates to
- sysadmin policy specifically
-
- Abstract of CAF-News 02.55:
- [Week ending November 8, 1992
-
- ============================= KEY ================================
- The words after the numbers are a short PARAPHRASE of the
- article, NOT AN OBJECTIVE SUMMARY and not necessarily our opinions.
- ==================================================================
-
- [We need new guest (or regular) editors, for information send
- email to kadie@eff.org. - Carl]
-
- Notes 1-2 review the case of Steven Brack, a student at Ohio State
- University whose behavior on OSU systems led to his expulsion.
-
- 1. Carl Kadie: "Talking with him via the Net and on the phone, I was
- astounded at how sloppy OSU was with due process. For example, they didn't
- even tell him what he was charged with until he asked. Then they listed
- things he was accused of doing and (vague) rules that we was accused of
- breaking but would not say which action(s) they thought violated which
- rule(s). Finally, when he was expelled, they listed only the rules they had
- determined he had violated but included no 'finding of fact' as to which
- actions they had determined he had actually done."
- <Bx3M4p.51M@cs.uiuc.edu>
-
- 2. Steven Brack: "There was never a formal decision issued by the
- [disciplinary] panel, only a finding that I violated said provisions of OSU's
- rules. [...] I was not allowed to call witnesses from ACS [Acad. Comp.
- Services], nor to compel any witnesses to testify, no matter what their
- relation to the case. (Prof. John Bridge, who brought the complaint about
- my posting the word 'fuck' to a newsgroup, for example.) I was not allowed
- to put questions to the witnesses, but rather could only suggest questions to
- the panel. I was not allowed to introduce documentary evidence that would
- have shown that ACS gave me permission to do everything I did. Matters of
- ACS procedures, including the lack of published rules, were likewise off
- limits. Despite this, the hearing lasted over 5 hours, one of the longest
- they could remember, with my closing argument taking over 30 minutes,
- including interruptions by the chair, when he thought I was saying things
- that weren't 'at issue.'"
- <9211081708.AA22877@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu>
-
- Notes 3-10 discuss sexual harassment policy generally, and how it relates
- to sysadmin policy specifically.
-
- 3. "Part of the problem of rules about sexual harassment is that they are
- rules, but they are not rules. I wonder what the word 'informally' means in
- the phrase 'empowered to informally resolve'? I don't think the phrase
- really means anything, but it is often the heart of the sexual harassment
- policy. Informality precludes empowerment. Informal means outside of the
- normal rules and regulations. I think that the informality gives sysadmins
- more flexibility in their handling of these cases. [...] It seems to me that
- harassment claims are a pretty difficult subject, and may be more complicated
- when computer networks are involved."
- <1992Nov3.162237.9767@news.columbia.edu>
-
- 4. "The point that we as system administrators and managers must address is
- the following: is our task in this arena to do everything possible to avoid
- a lawsuit against the company or university no matter how ludicrous, but
- technically possible, the scenario; or is our task to manage the system in a
- reasonable way, doing our best to balance the rights and resposibilities of
- all the users in accordance with company or university policies?"
- <Bx3u36.GCx@rice.edu>
-
- 5. And so, tempting though it may be for a sysadmin to step in and arbitrate
- "complaints of unwelcome behavior of a sexual nature (some user displaying
- sexually oriented images on their screen in a public lab, for example), I
- think your options are much more limited if you wish to reduce the
- possibility that the university, and perhaps you personally, will be named in
- a sexual harassment lawsuit." In fact, your *only* option in this situation
- is "Refer the matter to my supervisors."
- <Bx42LK.J20@rice.edu>
-
- 6. The author quotes Rice University's sexual harassment policy at length,
- and comments: "I am suggesting that system administrators or supervisors are
- elevating the risks to themselves and their companies or universities by
- ignoring the complaint or telling the complainant to ignore the behavior. I
- am suggesting that system administrators not involve themselves in
- determining if a complaint is legitimate or reasonable if they don't have
- to."
- <Bx5J2q.9yI@rice.edu>
-
- 7. What about using the guideline of harassment being that which "a
- reasonable person would find offensive, humiliating, or [an] interference
- with his or her required tasks or career opportunities at the University"?
- Well, that would seem to come later in the process than the time of the
- complaint. So, once again, when you get a complaint, pass it on!
- <Bx5zp1.Fvv@rice.edu>
-
- 8. "There is also the problem of setting the 'reasonable' standards, e.g.
- there may be 'womens' groups with an idea of what the 'reasonable woman'
- finds accetable, are there directly equivalent 'mens' groups to present
- a model for what the 'reasonable man' finds acceptable and unaccetpable?
- The latter, if they exist, appear to be lacking in the publicity department."
- <1992Nov4.080856.24951@aston.ac.uk>
-
- 9. "Reasonable people can still disagree -- I can quite reasonably believe
- that my putting a racy GIF on my background window is protected speech; I
- also think it's reasonable that my (female) supervisor would find it
- bothersome. [...] If no compromise can be reached, and if neither party will
- back down, one side must give in. Sometime, the question of "who should back
- down" must ultimately be settled in the courts.
- <9211052135.AA09761@hibiscus.cit.cornell.edu>
-
- 10. "This discussion, we should recall, started about the alleged 'sexual
- harassment' nature of what a user chooses to display on hir windowed-screen
- background. If such choices, which are so obviously in the nature of
- free-speech expressions, are to be labeled 'sexual harassment' under the
- 'hostile environment' doctrine, then the 'must be of a sexual nature' clause
- which you take as a given (and would make sense!) is NOT guaranteed AT ALL.
- [...] The threshold, in my humble opinion, was crossed when it was conceded
- that a 'free expression'-nature act, such as the choice of what to wear or
- what to display in one's personal working environment, was in any way
- equivalent to 'harassing' somebody else sexually, with unwelcome sexual
- advances."
- <1992Nov06.073839.10961@cadlab.sublink.org>
-
- - Elizabeth, Aaron ]
-
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