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- From: ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU (Matthew L. Ginsberg)
- Subject: Re: discussion with Penrose
- Message-ID: <1993Jan23.174434.17001@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
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- Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
- References: <1992Dec17.160050.9104@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> <NAKASHIM.93Jan23150803@uranus.etl.go.jp>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:44:34 GMT
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- In article <NAKASHIM.93Jan23150803@uranus.etl.go.jp> nakashim@etl.go.jp (Hideyuki Nakashima) writes:
-
- [Stuff about my discussion with Penrose, and how we agreed to disagree.]
- >
- >... there exists a Tuting test which will
- >distinguish the belief states described in (1). Applying the test to
- >Matt and Penrose, it can be found which of you are correct.
-
- Of course. If you can build a computer that passes the Turing test, I
- will have been correct. If you can't, Roger will have been. If you're
- saying something more subtle here, I can't see what it is.
-
- >
- >But since both of you agreed on
- >
- > that neither of us had any hope of
- > changing the other's views on (1),
- >
- >it can be concluded that (1) is wrong (by assuming (2) and (3)) :-)
-
- Actually, we just realized that building the above computer wasn't something
- we could accomplish over dinner. Pity, that.
-
- Matt Ginsberg
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