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- From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
- Subject: Re: Food chain (was Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted))
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:31:50 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.143751.3729@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan27.063010.20602@csi.uottawa.ca> cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan27.040833.4696@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >>>So? Some animals, like rabbits, are herbivores => veganism is natural.
- >>Unfortunately, this goes against the corresponding principle:
- >>Some animals, like eagles, are carnivores => carnivism (?sp) is also
- >>equally natural.
- >
-
- And some that we think are herbivores are actually omnivores. (See the
- current issue of Natural History) I wonder- are the great apes exclusively
- vegetarian or are they opportunistic omnivores and poor hunters?
-
- >What I am saying is that since the people reading this article have the
- >choice between veg(etari)anism and meat-eating, it is unethical for them
- >to eat meat. Since you have this choice, if you eat meat you are causing
- >*avoidable* suffering and death!
- >
-
- I am against avoidable suffering, but death? May as well be against taxes.
- It is inevitable for all things living. Only the manner varies, and none of
- us knows when it will occur. A fatalistic attitude, I suppose, but I don't
- see it as something to be feared, only avoided. By the same token, I don't
- see my causing the death of another organism as reason for guilt, unless it
- is done for no reason or in an inhumane (by my reckoning) manner.
-
- >
- >I would not fault someone for eating meat if the only alternative really
- >was death for themselves. However, no one reading this article is in that
- >situation.
- >
-
- There has been a lot of discussion about the relative merits of a meat-free
- diet. I don't read a lot about nutrition and probably won't, but I'm wondering.
- Is this actually proven and accepted by the majority of experts in the field?
- I get the gut feeling that there are maybe a few studies that have shown no
- ill effects with a proper vegetarian diet and some ill effects from large
- amounts of meat. These would both be extremes. My feeling is that I do not
- wish for a physique like Gandhi, which is my stereotype of a vegetarian.
-
- Jeff Achenbach
-