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- From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
- Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,soc.culture.canada
- Subject: GST Deferral
- Keywords: GST, Money, economics
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.053008.19293@csi.uottawa.ca>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 05:30:08 GMT
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- In article <C1HsKv.257@frumious.uucp> uunet.ca!frumious!pat writes:
- >cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
- >|Money that never gets used is "useless." If a "rich person" merely
- >|saves/invests, and never purchases anything with those savings, then
- >|he or she is NOT better off.
- >
- >But invested money need not be useless; it can earn income.
-
- Money that is never "disinvested" is not useful, since it is not
- actually used to purchase goods.
-
- I'm not trying to obtuse - the point IS important.
-
- Money that is invested may provide increased future benefits, but I
- would note that when that increased amount of money is actually USED,
- it would attract MORE taxes by virtue of having grown.
-
- If it's NEVER used, but is MERELY re-invested, then it begs the
- question: Does the money ACTUALLY provide any benefit?
-
- Taking as an example the famous story "A Christmas Carol" by Charles
- Dickens, Ebenezer Scrooge may have had great wealth, but if he never
- spent any of it, he would sit in effective poverty, eating gruel, and
- living in a dark, cold, unmaintained house. He had the POTENTIAL to
- live in luxury (and under GST, would pay a correspondingly high
- price), but chose to live in poverty.
-
- The point is that "savings" do not provide an unalloyed benefit. GST
- allows some people to defer paying the tax, but that deferment can, if
- anything, INCREASE the net present value of the taxes paid.
-
- I would propose that if it DOESN'T, then the individual would have
- been better off by NOT deferring the taxes.
-
- If someone feels that it is possible to as a NET result benefit from
- deferrment of GST in the LONG run, without there being a corresponding
- NET benefit to the government, then I suggest that they show
- NUMERICALLY an example of this.
-
- I'm not absolutely certain of it, but I don't think that it's possible
- for an individual to benefit from deferring GST without the government
- also benefiting in a corresponding way.
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