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- From: g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh)
- Subject: Killing bugs (was Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted))
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.032719.12009@cdf.toronto.edu>
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:27:19 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.193010.13137@csi.uottawa.ca> cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
- >In article <C1F7Kq.Lxr@math.uwaterloo.ca> rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF]) writes:
- >>Does this apply to all animals? I think Einstein said something like
- >>"I gave up gardening after I realized I was cutting worms in two."
- >
- >Worms aren't, strictly speaking, animals. (I don't recall offhand
- >which phylum worms are in - my last bio. course was in grade 9, which
- >was, whew, a LONG time ago! Early '80s, for sure!)
-
- Actually, I do try to be nice to worms (I thought they were animals, but as
- I mentioned in another more detailed post on this issue there are various
- systems of classification). After the rain I gently move the worms who have
- crawled onto the sidewalk back to the soil before they dry up (or before
- someone deliberately steps on them :-( ).
-
- >However, Rosemary seems to draw the line HIGHER than the insects. Or
- >is it immoral to kill insects, Rosemary? How about spiders?
- >Arachnae? Does this have any implications for certain types of
- >"sea-food" that are from the same phylae as critters that are
- >conventionally called "bugs?"
-
- I am currently planning on investigating the insect issue in more detail
- (if anyone has any good refs on the sentience or lack thereof of insects,
- please mail me). I do think insects have many admirable qualities. (For
- one thing, they are among the few animals who can thrive in Toronto...)
- And I have always been a fan of spiders. Recently I saw one of my parents'
- friends who hadn't seen me in 10 years, and he remembered me as "the girl
- who carries spiders around in her hands".
- --
- Rosemary Waigh Undergraduate, Computer Science / Linguistics
- g9rwaigh@cdf.utoronto.ca University of Toronto
- "You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is
- concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity." - Emerson
-