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- From: pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN)
- Subject: Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted)
- Message-ID: <C1F748.Ezv@ecf.toronto.edu>
- Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
- References: <1993Jan22.144813.7927@cdf.toronto.edu> <4078@isgtec.isgtec.com> <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:26:30 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >In article <4078@isgtec.isgtec.com> robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne) writes:
- >>Rosemary Waigh (g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu) wrote:
- >[...]
- >>Maybe now you can explain why it's ok to painlessly kill vegatables for
- >>food but it isn't ok to painlessly kill animals for food.
- >
- >1. I question whether it is possible to painlessly kill animals.
- >2. Animals are sentient. They care whether they live or die. To kill
- > them is to go against their wishes. Killing non-human animals is wrong
- > for the same reasons that killing human animals is wrong.
-
- And what is that reason?
-
- > Plants, OTOH, do not care whether they live or die (yes, I have read
- > _The_Secret_Life_of_Plants_ which alleges that plants can feel pain).
- >
- >A question for you: do you think it is ok to painlessly kill humans?
-
- No. I start with the principle that it is wrong to kill people. What
- principle do you start with.
- Also -- do you really think animals are conscious?
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