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- From: nshaylor@fabcab.demon.co.uk (Nik Shaylor)
- Newsgroups: alt.recovery
- Subject: Re: advice wanted on helping alcoholic relative
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 11:58:32 GMT
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- In article <hunt.727953928@shy.umd.edu> hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt) writes:
-
- > ... Until recently I had been willing to accept the notion
- >that it was more important to deal with the sources of his stress than
- >to deal with the alcohol problem head-on, but I am beginning to think
- >otherwise. Has anyone had the experience with oneself or someone else
- >that alcohol abuse has arisen as a stress-related problem and has
- >ceased to be a problem when the source of stress has been resolved?
- >Does anyone feel that hoping for this scenario is entirely
- >unrealistic?
-
- I think what you say here is spot on, the best route out of this
- situation is to tackle the problems in the reverse order i.e. sort out
- the Alcohol abuse, then the sources of the stress. Although the one may
- be seen as a cause of the other the alcohol abuse does become a problem
- in its own right and may not go away automatically. Also it is probably not
- possible to sort anything alse whilst he is still drinking.
-
- >He has gone to some AA meetings, but I think he feels uncomfortable
- >with the importance of a "higher power" in the group's thinking (I
- >suspect I would be too, for that matter). I know that one is not
- >ostracized for being nonreligious, but I can see that he may have
- >difficulty identifying with a group of people who are looking to their
- >religions for help in recovering. Does anyone have a success story to
- >tell having done things the AA way in spite of being very
- >nonreligious? Does anyone know of any recovery groups which cater to
- >the nonreligious?
-
- This is a very unfortunate impression, and all too easy to get. I am not
- at all religious, but I do not have any problem with this aspect of the 12
- step program. AA prople tend to have a language all of their own, and they talk
- a lot about God, but mostly it not used in a religious context. More in a
- sense of general spirituality. I think the point is made quite a lot in the
- litrature that AA (and all the other 12 step fellowships) are not affiliated
- with any religious teachings.
-
- As for the God bit the thing that did it for me was somone who said:
-
- "The program works if you believe in God, the program works if you do not
- believe in God, but the program does not work if you think you are God!"
-
- The best advice is to take what is useful, what you need for your recovery,
- and leave the rest behind. Also it can be helpful to go to different meetings,
- he may well find there is often quite a different feel/emphasis in another
- group. He should look out for someone who inspires him, someone whos recovery
- he admires. Recovery should be an adventure, not all doom and gloom.
-
- I do hope it works out for him,
-
- Regar#s,
-
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- Nik Shaylor. The Old School House, School Lane, nshaylor@fabcab.demon.co.uk
- Salisbury, Wilts. SP1 3YA, UK. +44 722 326577
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