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- From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
- Subject: Re: Am I being sleazed by this insurance company?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.034819.21021@spdcc.com>
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- References: <1993Jan26.220455.15604@cs.ucla.edu> <1k66lbINNk1l@transfer.stratus.com>
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:48:19 GMT
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- savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia) writes:
- >coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman) writes:
- >>Is the insurance company's behavior improper? Illegal? Would all companies
- >>ask for this, or did I just find a dud?
-
-
- [Listing roommates on insurance]
-
- >Nope. It's not a dud. Here in MA, if you are living with
- >someone who is not a family member, you have to list
- >them on your insurance if they are going to be driving your
- >car.
-
-
- Incorrect.
-
- That depends on the individual insurance company.
- Travelers wanted me to list everyone in the household,
- including my 17 year old brother on my policy. My dad was
- a truck driver for UPS, I have a manual xmission car and
- my brother couldn't drive it. they insisted. I left.
- I walked down the street, went into another insurnace office
- (Aetna - this was some time ago), and asked about this point-blank.
- They said that if the other people were only driving the car
- rarely, I didn't need to put them on the policy.
-
- My partner and I are not on each other's policies.
-
- The general rule is - if the other person is more of a liability,
- you're better of putting them on the policy. For most companies,
- the insurance rate is set to the most liable person. IF your roommates
- *are* going to be using the car in any regular fashion, you're
- better off putting htem on and divvying up the bill accordingly.
- Some companies will try to levy an additional surcharge on you,
- in that case you might as well find another agent [*].
-
- >If you don't and get into and accident, then you are
- >completely responsible. The insurance company will not
- >even go to bat for you. For instance, even if roomate #1
- >takes the car 200 yards down the road and gets into an
- >accident, your car would be uninsured for her unless she
- >is listed.
-
- That's not entirely true - they do make exceptions for
- extraordinary circumstances. The burden of proof is on you
- to convince them that those circumstances exist. The main reason
- for this policy is to stop people from having higher-risk
- drivers using the car without the rider for them. In MA
- people of lower-risk are covered. My father just changed his insurance
- over to list my sister. The rate only reflects her because with his
- driving record he represents no additional liability. He's paying
- more, but she's covered too.
-
- My roommate isn't on my policy but he's in a lower-risk group
- than I am. If I want to add him, I can, but it won't cost me any
- more (I checked on this).
-
- BBC
-
- [*] At this point someone is probably going to bring up that all
- MA rates are fixed. Yes, they are fixed for specific items.
- How those items are clumped and sold is left up to the insurance
- companies. Therefore you ***can*** shop and find better rates,
- even in MA. I went from $1,200/year down to $850/year doing just this.
-
-