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- From: idoy@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Mike Wilson)
- Subject: Re: Comments on the 2nd RFD: soc.culture.native
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 06:20:53 GMT
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- gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo) writes:
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- >Here's what I have thus far:
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-
- > CHARTER: Soc.culture.native is for the discussion of issues relating to
- > native populations throughout the world. For the purposes of defining this
- > newsgroup, "native" is considered roughly synonymous with "aboriginal" or
- > "indigenous." All of these terms designate the existing descendents of the
- > peoples who inhabited the present territory of a country at the time when
- > persons of a different culture or ethnic origin colonized that territory,
- > and who today live more in conformity with their particular social,
- > economic and cultural customs and traditions than with the institutions of
- > the country of which they now form a part...
-
- Hello Gary,
-
- Good to hear from you again. I sincerely hope that I will
- have an opportunity to engage Preston Hardison in a new
- USENET newsgroup someday. But really, as both of you pointed
- out, we aren't going to determine the question of sovereignty
- in our little charter. So, as much as I want to get into it,
- I'll refrain for now. I will only say that Preston pointed
- out that he was speaking from the State's perspective, not the
- native perspective.
-
- As for this current form of the charter, I would say that it
- ok, except the part about "existing descendents" is of course
- inaccurate. Like any other nation, Indian nations include many
- people not on the basis of race and heredity.
-
- About the "common oppression" thing again, Preston says that it
- is one of the most unifying aspects for native people, and yet
- I would argue that like skin color, this criterion doesn't
- include everybody. For the sake of including everyone, why
- don't we just drop the oppression stuff. We all talk about
- it, of course, but I'd rather not define myself by it, if it's
- all the same to you.
-
- About native people living in conformity with their traditions,
- I would argue that there are many native people who, for reasons
- either of their choosing or not, have left the traditions of
- their nations. Are they then not native? That's not for me
- to decide, nor, in my opinion, for this charter to decide.
-
- Why not leave it vague as it was before?
-
- Cheers,
-
- Mike
-
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- Michael Wilson
- idoy@crux1.cit.cornell.edu
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