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- From: speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights)
- Subject: Re: Comments on the 2nd RFD: soc.culture.native
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- References: <1993Jan22.182239.7676@gnosys.svle.ma.us> <idoy.727797491@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> <1993Jan23.181707.16257@gnosys.svle.ma.us> <idoy.727895586@crux1.cit.cornell.edu>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:08:29 GMT
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- idoy@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Mike Wilson) writes:
-
- >> "indigenous." All of these terms designate the existing descendents of the
- >> peoples who inhabited the present territory of a country at the time when
- >> persons of a different culture or ethnic origin colonized that territory,
- >> and who today live more in conformity with their particular social,
- >> economic and cultural customs and traditions than with the institutions of
- >> the country of which they now form a part, under a State structure which
- >> incorporates mainly the national, social and cultural characteristics of
- >> other segments of the population which are now predominant.
-
- >This addition sounds too exclusive for my tastes. Not all native
- >people have been colonized, and in our honest moments we admit that
- >native people have done some colonizing and oppressing ourselves.
-
- >Furthermore, not all native people have been "colonized"; many
- >are still living more or less apart and in peace with those around
- >them.
-
- Points well taken. I can see how the wording could be limiting.
-
- >What I object to even more in this addition, however, is the
- >statement that Indian Nations form a part or are "under" a
- >State structure. With that little phrase, you have effectively
- >undermined the sovereign status of Indian Nations in America.
-
- I agree. The last phrase is definitely extreme, paternalistic as
- I believe the original article called it.
-
- >Why not leave it sort of vague as it was before? It seems to
- >me that it left open the possibility of discussion among all
- >KINDS of native people, urban and reservation, dislocated and
- >intact.
-
- The main reason I suggested the changes is because the idea of
- "first to inhabit a region" seems to raise questions of when first
- was and academic situations like that. But if the charter is viable
- as it was, then I have no problem with it; I certainly don't want
- to delay the RFD or CFV processes. After all, it's just a charter :-)
-
- Arlen
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