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- From: janeric@control.lth.se (Jan Eric Larsson)
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- Subject: Re: What do the "Lapps" call themselves?
- Message-ID: <JANERIC.93Jan21114922@bellman.control.lth.se>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 10:49:22 GMT
- References: <1993Jan19.100929.1@sara.cc.utu.fi>
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- Organization: Dept. Automatic Control, Lund Inst. of Technology, Sweden
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- In-Reply-To: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:01:41 GMT
- Originator: janeric@bellman
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- Gary S. Trujillo said:
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- >The following is from a friend in the U.S. who has been speaking the
- >Norwegian language all her life (both of her parents being from Norway):
- >
- | Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 19:13:39 EST
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- | On the subject of Sami or Lapps: When I was a child the term I always
- | heard was Lapps. However, that was when Norwegians were not particularly
- | conscious of the wishes or needs of their citizens in the north part of
- | the land. The Samis have sought rights for themselves more recently and
- | one of the results has been that others have been told fairly forcefully
- | that they should use the name Sami for this people. (It is spelled "same"
- | in Norwegian, but it is a two-syllable word.) This is now the official
- | name. "Lapp" means a patch of cloth for mending, thus the name suggests
- | that these people wore patched clothes, in all, a derogatory term and one
- | that needs to be dropped today.
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- To my mind, this states the general opinion quite fairly. However,
- here comes some linguistic facts. Interpret them as you like.
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- The words same, saami, sabme, etc., are fenno-ugrian in origin and are
- used to construct the names of the langauge and of the people. Thus,
- the saami people use words based on them about themselves in their own
- langauge.
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- The word lapp is Scandinavian, i.e., north-germanic in origin. It is
- an old word, used long before 1000 A.D. and its meaning is unclear.
- Thus, the explanation concerning lapp in the meaning of cloth-patch is
- in no way lingustically motivated; there are many competing theories.
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- Neither is it true that lapp was or is clearly derogatory. But of
- course the speakers of north-germanic languages have often seen the
- saami as more primitive, and anyway it may seem reasonable to name a
- people in their own langauge. I think that most people today believe
- the word lapp to be derogatory, with no linguistic reason.
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- Jan Eric Larsson JanEric@Control.LTH.Se +46 46 108795
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