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- From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
- Newsgroups: alt.dreams
- Subject: Re: time flow
- Message-ID: <DLB.93Jan26110123@fanny.wash.inmet.com>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 16:01:23 GMT
- References: <1993Jan22.152645.25572@mlb.semi.harris.com> <1993Jan22.203025.14742@tcsi.com>
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- In-Reply-To: miket@hermes.tcs.com's message of 22 Jan 93 20:30:25 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan22.203025.14742@tcsi.com> miket@hermes.tcs.com
- (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.) writes:
-
- In article <1993Jan22.152645.25572@mlb.semi.harris.com>
- bwm@mongoose.ess.harris.com (Bruce McIntosh) writes:
- >Does anyone have observations on how the flow of time in dreams
- >compares to real time? It would seem from my own experience that
- >quite a bit can happen in a dream that is not very long in
- >realtime. Does lucidity have any impact on this? Just curios.
- >Thankyou.
-
- My vague recollection from LaBerge's books is that dream-time and
- real-time are pretty well correlated. But my personal *experience*
- is that those nodding- off-in-class dreams can be pretty epic
- compared to the amount of time I was asleep. I don't know if
- anyone has studied this often-noted discrepancy.
-
- LaBerge claims that long dreams are a result of the same kind of
- mechanisms used in movies. For what it is worth (perhaps nothing), in
- hypnosis time can be compressed by a considerable factor. Subjects
- instructed to experience detailed hallucinations of tasks such as
- counting and walking over a course could experience these events fully
- in a fraction of "real time". Whether this occurs in dreams, and
- whether the lucid nature of LaBerge's dream experiments keeps this
- from happening in his own experiments, is a subject of considerable
- interest. I have no idea how to go about designing an experiment to
- determine if this happens.
-
- For those interested: "Time Distortion in Hypnosis", by Milton
- Erickson and Lynn Cooper. I belive it is published by Irvington. The
- papers are reproduced in "The Collected Papers of Milton H. Erickson
- on Hypnosis", volume II.
-
- Dave Barton
- dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
-